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Wing leader of 122 wing

Wing leader of 122 wing
Author: Bertrand H (Guest)
Time Stamp:
04:31:35 04 July 2001
Post:
At last, who was the Wing leader of the Wing 122 on March April May 1945 ?

Thanks,

Bertrand H


RE: Wing leader of 122 wing
Author: Allan Hillman (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:23:18 04 July 2001
Post:
Wing Commander (Flying) was Evan Mackie RNZAF who had been CO of 80 Squadron - Wing Leader - CO of 122 Wing was Group Captain P G Jameson - what is your interest in 122 Wing please - my father served in it (ground echelon) after 125 Wing disbanded in July 45 and I have the 2 wartime histories of 122 Wing published in Copenhagen in 1945


RE: Wing leader of 122 wing
Author: Bertrand H (Guest)
Time Stamp:
04:37:07 05 July 2001
Post:
Hi Allan,

In the last and special issue of the french magazine AVIONS ( n%B0100) there are a lot of articles about the Aces . For the France the author of the article writes that the french pilot Clostermann was squadron leader of sqdn 3 then Wing leader of 122 Wing at the end of the war.

I was surprised because I never been heard about this or read his name in the books, so my two requests were to invalidate what it is written,

Thank you for your reply,

Sincerely,

Bertrand H


RE: Wing leader of 122 wing
Author: allanoftruro
Time Stamp:
19:34:58 05 July 2001
Post:
hello Betrand

Pierre Clostermann served in 341 (Alsace) squadron, 602 (City of Glasgow) squadron in 125 Wing, 274, 56 and 3 squadrons in 122 Wing and, according to his book, The Big Show it states in the chapter "The last test" dated 3 May 1945 "At the time I had been placed in temporary command of the Wing. I was still uneasy about my new rank and therefore felt rather edgy. My position - if it hadn't been for the sporting attitude of the British - might have been awkward because after all I was only a Sous-Lieutenant though I was in command of English officers much higher in rank. This isn't mentioned in the 122 Wing history and even Evan Mackie, who took over after the loss of W/Cdr R Brooker doesn't mention it in his book either - however, 122 Wings history does say "The new Wing Leader was w/Cdr E D Mackie DSO DFC CO of 80 squadron, who finished the war with twenty-five enemy aircraft to his credit. Another leading member of the Wing at this time was F/L Pierre Clostermann, who had twenty-two victories with the RAF, in addition to at least six with the French Air Force"

Let me know if you want more info on Pierre Clostermann as I have quite a bit on him.


RE: Wing leader of 122 wing
Author: RD (Guest)
Time Stamp:
16:11:38 07 July 2001
Post:
Hi Bertrand,

Clostermann : as you surely know, a great guy and a brave war hero who always had a knack for making a whale out of a goldfish...

He must have had some kind of responsabilities ("a leading role") for a few days before the very end of the war hence the "I had an effective command of a wing" though this was obviously never officialised.

Between truth and lie lies an area of very subjective and personal interpretation of the facts. No need to dig too deep !


thanks Allanoftruro & RD (n/t)
Author: Bertrand H (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:54:19 08 July 2001
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