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Records of Americans in the RAF

Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: Ian Le Sueur (Guest)
Time Stamp:
12:29:12 16 July 2001
Post:
Where would the records for American citizens joining the RAF via Canada prior to the US joining the War in Dec 1941 be held.

Would it be the Canadian archives or US States Dept?



RE: Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: RodM (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:01:09 16 July 2001
Post:
Dear Ian,

if an American joined the R.C.A.F. I would think that his records would be in Canada. If he transferred to the U.S.A.A.F. then at least his U.S.A.A.F. record would be in the U.S.

If he joined the R.A.F. direct, then his record would be held by the R.A.F. and would only be accessible to the next-of-kin.

I add that these are only subjective judgements

Cheers

Rod


RE: Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: Hugh A. Halliday (Guest)
Time Stamp:
01:23:28 17 July 2001
Post:
Rod is correct. The file of an American enlisting in the RCAF will be held by the National Personnel Records Centre, a division of the National Archives of Canada, and will cover his service for so long as he remained a member of the RCAF. If he transferred to the USAAF, the record (as held in Canada) will effectively cease. There may be some post-transfer correspondence (for example, of an American subsequently inquiring about his entitlement to service medals).

If he joined the RAF directly, his records will be in Britain, and presumably the same observation will apply - the RAF documentation will cease upon his transfer to American forces.


RE: Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: Ian Brown (Guest)
Time Stamp:
12:33:00 29 July 2001
Post:
There is another possibility, although I suspect this may not apply. Around 1,000 US citizens joined the Civilian Technical Corps before December 1941 to make up for a shortfall in technical personnel (mainly radar mechanics) in the RAF. CTC members wore uniforms similar to those of the RAF but had civilian, non-combatant, status. They did, however, serve on RAF stations alongside RAF personnel. If the pre-Pearl Harbour US men you are referring to served in the CTC then you would have great difficulty finding out anything about them. No records have been found either in the US or the UK, but I've been able to compile a list of over a third of the membership. I'd certainly be interested to hear about anyone who served with the CTC.


RE: Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: N. John Hooper (Guest)
Time Stamp:
21:32:43 29 July 2001
Post:
Hi Ian: I would be very pleased if you could pass on any information you receive. One of my instructors at No 2 Radio School at Yatesbury was an American in the CTC. A Merchant Marine Radio Operator he volunteered to come over and teach code. He was fantastic. He once demonstrated to us poor pupils that he could read 40+ words a minute (From a machine) and write the message in chalk on a blackboard while reading to us from a book!


RE: Records of Americans in the RAF
Author: Ian Brown (Guest)
Time Stamp:
18:04:55 01 August 2001
Post:
Thanks very much for your very interesting information. I know a few CTC men went on to join the Merchant Marine, but hadn't previously heard about Merchant Marine members having joined the Corps (but it is very difficult to get details of where the men came from).

Would it be possible to send me details of your instructor at Yatesbury, such as name, where he was from, etc.? I suspect it's not of much wider interest, so feel free to e-mail me at ibrown.A T.radararchive.freeserve.co.uk with anything you can recall.

I'm curently working on an article on the history of the CTC and would be only too happy to send you a copy.