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F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF

F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
19:17:31 31 July 2001
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On board Stirling W7613 of 218 Sqn. Crashed 1/2-10-1942 in Denmark, missing in action. Who knows the reason why this airman is listed on the Malta Memorial?


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Finn Buch (Guest)
Time Stamp:
21:51:08 31 July 2001
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You can find the answer here:

http://www.vac-acc.gc.ca/general/sub.cfm?source=Memorials/ww2mem/malta

Regards

Finn Buch - Denmark


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:30:50 31 July 2001
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Hi Henk

Nice to hear from you again.

This is the information I have.

Flight Sergeant Joseph Donat Romeo Menard was from Montreal, Quebec. He was an air gunner with No.218 'Gold Coast' (B) Squadron. On Thursday the 1st of October 1942, he went missing along with the six other crew members of their Stirling Mk.I during an op over Italy. Menard's name is inscribed on Panel 5, Column 2 of the Malta War Memorial

Cheers...Chris


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat Romeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
07:41:53 01 August 2001
Post:
Thanks Chris. I also had that info, it's in Les Allison's "They Shall Grow Not Old". However, Chorley in "Bomber Command Losses 1942" lists him in Stirling W7613 and that a/c crashed near Esbjerg (Denmark).

Regards - Henk.


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat Romeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: RodM (Guest)
Time Stamp:
08:50:00 01 August 2001
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Dear Henk,

this instance is not uncommon, although unusual. I know that many airmen who went missing while fighting over Italy or North Africa were commemorated on the Malta Memorial or Malta airmen mentioned on the Alamein Memorial.

Your best bet is to contact the Commonwealth War Graves Commission direct as they should be able to provide the definitive answer. I think that Chris is probably correct and that the reason lies in the crews' operation having been over Italy.

Regards

RodM


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat Romeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
16:10:32 01 August 2001
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Hi Rod,

I consider Bill Chorley's books as most reliable (above all other publications) and he lists Menard on Stirling W7613. Also confirms [with an exclamation mark] that Menard's name is on the Malta- (instead of the Runnymede-) Memorial. Air Britain lists W7613 as missing over Denmark on a raid to L%FCbeck. Martin Middlebrook (Bomber Command War Diaries) records no raid on an Italian target, only three small raids on Wismar, Flensburg and L%FCbeck. I'll ask CWGC what the motive was to commemorate this airman on the Malta Memorial. Thanks for your reaction.

Henk.


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Finn Buch (Guest)
Time Stamp:
18:43:58 01 August 2001
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I have no details about the fate of Flight Sergeant Joseph Donat Romeo Menard. Only that F/lt Johannes Christiaan Frederick Du Toit and Wing Commander Montagu Francis Baldwin Read was brought in from Danish North Sea coast (near Hviding). Buried Esbjerg/Fovrfeld cemetery on 20.10.1942. Sgt. Alan Irwin Parkinson was found on same coast (Vejers), and buried Esbjerg/Fovrfeld cemetery on 30.10.1942. The mission was Hearnwyk near L%FCbeck.

Regards

Finn Buch


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
08:43:30 02 August 2001
Post:
Thanks Finn for your info. This is what's in the book of Chorley:

Stirling Mk.I - 218 Sqn - W7613 - HA-N - Op: L%FCbeck - T/o 1948 Downham Market - Crashed on the spit of land known as the Skallingen, which, along with Fano Island, guards the entrance to Esbjerg harbour. Both pilots (Du Toit and Read, Henk), and Sgt Parkinson RNZAF are buried in Fourfelt Cemetery; four others are on Runnymede Memorial, but F/S Menard RCAF appears on the Malta Memorial !

Crew were: F/L J.C.F. Du Toit - pilot/captain

W/C M.F.B. Read - 2nd pilot

Sgt J.W. Dawson - flight engineer

F/O J.R. Drake - navigator

Sgt K.J. Cooper - air bomber

Sgt J. Speed - wireless operator

Sgt A.I. Parkinson - air gunner (mid upper ?)

F/S J.D.R. Menard - RCAF - air gunner (rear).

Regards - Henk.


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat R.omeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: RodM (Guest)
Time Stamp:
13:29:36 02 August 2001
Post:
Dear Henk,

this may sound stupid, but has anyone actually checked the Runnymede Memorial to see if F/Sgt Menard is mentioned.

I think that it is the CWGC Registers that state that F/Sgt Menard is commemorated on the Malta Memorial. What are the chances of a mistake having occurred in the compilation of the registers?

Regards

Rod


RE: F/Sgt Joseph Donat Romeo MENARD - R/54895 - RCAF
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
15:50:49 02 August 2001
Post:
Hello Rod,

I was on Malta, took snapshots of the memorial, but didn't know by than that this question would show up. First will check the Malta-Memorial-List (friend of mine has this), then will check further. Will keep you informed thru the board. Thanks for your reaction.

Regards - Henk.