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Boeing Washington crash

Boeing Washington crash
Author: HughAHalliday
Time Stamp:
12:40:39 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Sergeant William Richard Karr, RAF was awarded a Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct, 24 April 1953, for deeds performed ollowing the crash of a Boeing Washington (B-29 in RAF service), 5 January 1953. Can anyone one identify the unit which was involved ?


RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
15:31:47 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Hi Hugh

I have a Boeing Washington (R.A.F. s/n WF502) that crashed in northern Wales on the 8th of Janury 1953. Could this be your airplane?

Cheers...Chris


RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
17:36:20 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Hi Hugh

Further to my previous posting.

Washington B. Mk. 1 s/n WF502 served with No. 90 (B) Squadron at R.A.F. Station Marham, Norfolk. The squadron received the aircraft type in January 1951. At that time, WF502 carried the code 'WP-O'. It retained this until April 1951, when No. 90 (B) Squadron dropped its code 'WP'. The aircraft retained its individual call letter 'O'.

I can not tell you if this aircraft was transferred to another squadron prior to being taken out of service, but from what I've been able to dig up, I would hazard a guess and say it stayed with the squadron until lost.

Cheers...Chris



RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: HughAHalliday
Time Stamp:
20:41:00 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Re the date: the citation to the Commendation is fairly specific:

KARR, William Richard, Sergeant (number ? Royal Air Force) - unit ?- Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct - awarded as per London Gazette dated 24 April 1953.

"Sergeant Karr was one of five survivors of a Washington aircraft crash which occurred on the night of Monday, 5th January 1953. Five members of the crew were killed and one seriously injured. Immediately after the crash this non-commissioned officer assumed charge and, despite the fact that he was suffering from severe shock, took measures to inform Royal Air Force Station, Coningsby, by telephone. He then returned to the aircraft and supervised the removal of the navigator who was badly injured and pinned down by the wreckage. One wing, close to this position, was burning, but Sergeant Karr entered the fuselage without hesitation, in spite of the danger of explosion. Having done all he could to help the injured man, he stationed himself on the public road where he was able to direct the fire tenders and ambulance to the scene of the crash. The navigator, having been extricated by the combined efforts of the aircrew survivors and civilians, thus received early medical attention. Sergeant Karr displayed initiative and great presence of mind and his prompt action doubtless contributed in no small measure towards saving the injured man's life."

Can someone check to see if "Monday" was the 5th or the 8th ?



RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: Ross_McNeill
Time Stamp:
21:33:22 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Hi Hugh and Chris,

The RAF lost two Washington's within three days of each other.

WF553 of No.15 Sqn flew into the ground at Horncastle, Lincolnshire while on the approach to Coningsby, killing 5, on 05/01/53.

On the 8th WF502 of No.90 Sqn crashed at Llandarmon, near Ruthin killing all 10 crew.

Regards

Ross


RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: HughAHalliday
Time Stamp:
21:36:28 Saturday, May 17, 2003
Post:
Mystery solved and another "gong" entry made more complete. Thank you, Ross.


RE: Boeing Washington crash
Author: Geoff Perry (Guest)
Time Stamp:
00:23:54 Sunday, May 18, 2003
Post:
>Re the date: the citation to

>the Commendation is fairly specific:

>

>

>KARR, William Richard, Sergeant (number ?

>Royal Air Force) - unit

>?- Queen's Commendation for Brave

>Conduct - awarded as per

>London Gazette dated 24 April

>1953.

>

>"Sergeant Karr was one of five

>survivors of a Washington aircraft

>crash which occurred on the

>night of Monday, 5th January

>1953. Five members of

>the crew were killed and

>one seriously injured. Immediately

>after the crash this non-commissioned

>officer assumed charge and, despite

>the fact that he was

>suffering from severe shock, took

>measures to inform Royal Air

>Force Station, Coningsby, by telephone.

> He then returned to

>the aircraft and supervised the

>removal of the navigator who

>was badly injured and pinned

>down by the wreckage.

>One wing, close to this

>position, was burning, but Sergeant

>Karr entered the fuselage without

>hesitation, in spite of the

>danger of explosion. Having

>done all he could to

>help the injured man, he

>stationed himself on the public

>road where he was able

>to direct the fire tenders

>and ambulance to the scene

>of the crash. The

>navigator, having been extricated by

>the combined efforts of the

>aircrew survivors and civilians, thus

>received early medical attention. Sergeant

>Karr displayed initiative and great

>presence of mind and his

>prompt action doubtless contributed in

>no small measure towards saving

>the injured man's life."

>

>Can someone check to see if

>"Monday" was the 5th or

>the 8th ?

Hugh, The 5th was a Monday.--Those perpetual calenders are marvellous!! Geoff