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HP933

HP933
Author: mark (Guest)
Time Stamp:
12:31:36 19 May 2003
Post:
Does anybody have any details on mosquito HP933,such as crew ,squadron,etc.Aircraft lost 22/2/45.

Thanks

Mark.


RE: HP933
Author: Tony Kearns (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:25:37 19 May 2003
Post:
Mark.

All I have is from Air Britain serials HP933 Mosquito VI 487 Sqn. missing from daylight intruder over NW Germany 28 November 1944. At least its a start.

Regards

Tony K


RE: HP933
Author: mark (Guest)
Time Stamp:
04:45:47 20 May 2003
Post:
Hi Tony,I'm afraid i've made an assumption.I had made an enquiry about HR356 to the Air historical Branch which was lost on 22/2/45,the information they gave on the location of loss was 2.5 km north of Bevern.They then went on to describe the position of HP933 as in the same area 1000 yds nw of the village,beside the railway line.I assumed that both aircraft were lost the same day.Funnily enough both aircraft are from the same squadron.

Thanks, Mark.


RE: HP933
Author: Mark Huxtable (Guest)
Time Stamp:
05:48:27 20 May 2003
Post:
Hiyas:

22nd February '45 was (as you probably know) Operation Clarion - Mossie squadrons which formed part of 2nd TAF (like 487) suffered heavy losses. So, no surprise that 2 aircraft of the same squadron were lost close to one another on this day.

Sorry for confusion, but was HP933 lost 2/22/45 or 28/11/44?

Will also post over on www.mossie.org.

Cheers,

Mark


RE: HP933
Author: mhuxt
Time Stamp:
05:57:55 20 May 2003
Post:
Dagnabbit:

Tried to edit the above, to no avail, password difficulties etc.

Anyway, PZ395 was certainly lost with HR356, about 600m away apparently, again near the rail line. Bevern is northwest of Hamburg, so the location Tony gave fits. I suppose if this were a railway junction, it's entirely possible that it would have been attacked on more than one occasion by 487.

Not sure if this helps - short answer is I don't have crew names for you, just wondering if PZ395 and HP933 haven't been confused.

Anyway, cheers,

Mark


RE: HP933
Author: John Larder (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:50:36 27 May 2003
Post:
Mark

Crew of PZ395 were W/C R.W. Baker and F/Lt. A.J. Fowler both RNZAF.


RE: HP933
Author: John Larder (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:48:24 27 May 2003
Post:
Mark

Who were the crew of HR356? I have F/Lt. Paul Sage (P) and F/O John Cockburn (N)F/Lt. David Potts (N)and F/Sgt. Frank Valentine (N) all buried in Baecklingen with the crews of HP933 and PZ395.



RE: HP933
Author: mark (Guest)
Time Stamp:
07:43:51 28 May 2003
Post:
Hi John,F/LT Paul Sage & F/O John Cockburn were the crew for HR356,i haven't got the aircraft details for Potts & Valentine.Thanks for HP933 crew details,i had Burne & Vickers as flying HP933 two days previously,but couldn't make the same assumption for the 22/2/45,as the squadron orbs for the 22nd Had Paul Sage & John Cockburn flying NS963 ,which clearly wasn't the case.

Thanks

Mark.


RE: HP933
Author: John Larder (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:42:04 27 May 2003
Post:
Crew of HP933

Pilot: F/O Peter Harold Burne (J/88797)

Nav: F/Lt. Allan Jerry Vickers (J/13115)


RE: HP933
Author: Mark Huxtable (Guest)
Time Stamp:
00:01:02 28 May 2003
Post:
Hi John:

As far as I know, Cockburn was navigator on LR356. Not sure if this is new info. to you or not.

Did the crew of the third aircraft survive? Can't find a reference to them on the War Graves site (possibly finger trouble on my part...)

Cheers,

Mark (the other one)


RE: HP933
Author: Mark Huxtable (Guest)
Time Stamp:
00:07:43 28 May 2003
Post:
Finger trouble, yes.

Sorted now, sorry.

Now if only I could remember my password, the better to edit posts.

Cheers,

Mark (still the other one)


RE: HP933
Author: mark (Guest)
Time Stamp:
08:00:49 28 May 2003
Post:
Hi Mark,John Cockburn was Navigator for HR356,LR356 was a 613 sqdn mosquito flown by F/LT Sheppard,F/O Martin lost on 2/2/45,too many 356's eh!As for the date of loss for HP933 it has to be the 22/2/45,as it was still operational on the 20/2/45.

Thanks

Mark.