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Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR

Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Al (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:14:00 30 November 2003
Post:
Hi Folks

This is a stinker, but maybe some of the Lancaster "Specialists" could help me on this one.

This airman was a Air Gunner in WW2 (& his son believes on Lanc's). He was the only survivior of a serious mid-air collision between three aircraft and spent a considerable time in Hospital with leg injuries.

Now as I said does anyone have any ideas on this accident as the info is very sparse indeed.

I would like to help out his son Don, a local councilor in Blackpool as he would like to know more about his dad's war. He does know that his dad was at the Queens Coronation (Don has that medal)with the RAuxAF and continued to serve up until the Sixties.

So thanks for any help but I know there isn't much to go on so I am not expecting too much in return.

regards

Alastair Cameron

Lancaster



RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Dave Johnson (Guest)
Time Stamp:
15:31:54 03 December 2003
Post:
Alastair

This might be the incident you are looking for. Certainly a Sgt S Clapham is involved!!

Date: 19/20 February 1944

Two Lancasters of 103 Squadron, Elsham Wolds, collided over base while returning from trip to Leipzig.

Lancaster III JB530 PM-?

F/Sgt H Gumbrell

Sgt T V Shaw

F/O H J Hearn

Sgt F Osborne

F/Sgt J Seward

Sgt D W Evans

Sgt R A Boulton

T/o 2322 Elsham Wolds. Despite damage sustained in collision, F/Sgt Gumbrell managed to crash-land without serious injury to his crew.

Lancaster III ND334 PM-?

W/O J C Warnes injured

Sgt D H J Cunningham killed

F/O R H Fuller killed

F/Sgt C Bagshaw killed

Sgt E S Gunn killed

SGT S CLAPHAM injured

Sgt A O Haines killed

T/o 2350 Elsham Wolds.

Sgt Cunningham and Sgt Haines are buried in Brigg cemetery, North Lincolnshire. It was only through this fact that I stumbled on Sgt Clapham's name!

Information sourced through works of W R Chorley.

Hope it is of some value.

Regards,

Dave,

North Lincolnshire.



RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Greg
Time Stamp:
17:28:25 03 December 2003
Post:
Hi Alastair,

I can add a little more, from the official accident report compiled into the events leading up to the crash landing of JB530.

JB530 was struck in mid-air by ND334. The accident report is a little unclear, but it looks like permission by the Flying Control Officer (FCO) was given to JB530 to land first, and then gave permission for the other aircraft (ND334) to land, but *before* JB530 had actually touched down on the runway. The Court of Enquiry comments suggest that this was due to a lack of flying discipline at the airfield, and also added that crews must keep a better lookout. The report also has AOC comments, to the effect that FCOs must not depart from normal Group procedure for landing procedures, and that funnel positions must be established by FCOs. The report summarises that the accident was caused by the FCO departing normal procedures.

I hope that adds a little for you Alastair - if you want a copy of the official report, drop me an email to spamtrap.A T.greg-harrison.co.uk (the email addy is valid) with your postal address, and i'll post it off to you.

Interestingly, there is no accident card raised for ND334, which crashed with the loss of 5 of the 7 crew.

Finally, for anyone that wants to make a small addenum to their copy of Chorley's 1944 losses, the letter "F" is appended to the accident report for JB530, next to the serial, where very often the individual aircraft letter is shown. So, although it's not shown in the ORB, i believe that JB530 was PM-F.

L/O

Greg

"You can take the boy out of Wales,

But you can't take Wales out of the boy..."


RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Al (Guest)
Time Stamp:
18:51:53 03 December 2003
Post:
Gentlemen

You are both excellent, I thought this one too difficult but said to Don Clapham that I would try the best bunch of researchers I knew and you have come up trumps again.

Thanks again to both of you.

I will let Don know what you have come up with.

Keep up the good works

best regards

Alastair


RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
19:09:00 03 December 2003
Post:
There is still a question mark.........

Chorley has Sgt F.G.F. Osborne on both JB530 and JB745. There must have been another survivor on JB530. Who may solve this puzzle?

Regards,

Henk.


RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: Greg
Time Stamp:
21:21:54 03 December 2003
Post:
Hi Henk,

I've checked the Loss Card for JB745 just to be absolutely certain, and Sgt Osborne is shown as being killed on that aircraft, so that definately means that the entry for Sgt Osborne on JB530 is incorrect, unless by some huge comincidence there were two Sgt F.G.F. Osborne's on the squadron at that time.

Unfortunately, the Accident Card for JB530 doesn't list the full crew, only the skipper, so the answer isn't there either. The only other place i can think where it'll be listed is in the ORB, but i don't have the ORB for 103 Squadron - does anyone else out there have it?

L/O

Greg

"You can take the boy out of Wales,

But you can't take Wales out of the boy..."


RE: Sgt (F/sgt)Samuel Clapham RAFVR
Author: rene romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:11:57 03 December 2003
Post:
Hello greg,

If contact David Fell from the Elsham Wolds Association (103 and 576 Sqn) He might be able to help you.

Regards

Ren Romainville