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Confirmation of crash site BK150

Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: StevenHeppenstall
Time Stamp:
04:17:52 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
For the last few months I have been trying to identify a Wellington that was lost in March 1943 near Weeze in Germany. After studying the photo and my records I have come to the conclusion that it has to be BK150 BU-Q lost on 5th March 1943. Can anyone please confirm this for me. There is a picture of this crashed aircraft in a book from Heinz Bosch whose titel is "Der Zweite Weltkrieg zwischen Rhein und Maas" translated "The second world war between the Rhine and Maas rivers" first published in 1971.

Any information would be gratefully accepted.

Steve


RE: Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: steven heppenstall (Guest)
Time Stamp:
17:23:34 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
The right squadron code should have been BH-Q, 300 Sqn.

It was early when I posted the message this morning.

Steve


RE: Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: David Griffith (Guest)
Time Stamp:
18:42:00 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
Steve,

Extract from W.R. Chorley's 'Bomber Command Losses':

5/6 March 1943:

300 Squadron Wellington III BK150 BH-Q Op: Essen

F/O K. Romaniszyn PAF - POW

S/L J. Jankowski PAF - +

Sgt M. Wozniak PAF - POW

Sgt Z. Abramik PAF - POW

Sgt C. Zaleski PAF - POW

T/o 19:31 p.m. Hemswell. Crashed near Monchengladbach. S/L Jankowski (PAF) lies in Rheinberg War Cemetery, in 1940 he had been appointed as the first Commanding Officer of 305 Squadron.

Hope this is of some interest !

David Griffith


RE: Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: DavyGco
Time Stamp:
19:36:22 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
Steve,

Have checked on the noticeboard's listing of Air Force POW's and can confirm the following:

K. Romaniszyn - (PO882) - (POW no. 42763) sent to Stalag Luft 3

M. Wozniak - (P794357) - (POW no. 27671) sent to Stalag 357 'Kopernikus' (Poland)

Z. Abramik - (P794398) - (POW no. 27627) sent to Stalag Luft 1

C. Zaleski - (P782047) - (POW no. 27670) sent to Stalag 357 'Kopernikus'

Have searched on CWGC for details of S/L J. Jankowski but cannot seem to find details - I'm certain that they are available on the site - perhaps it's just a matter of getting the spelling right!

David


RE: Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: pc (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:40:16 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
According to Chorley's bomber command losses. BK150 Wellington III of 300 sqn. was coded BH-Q and took of from Hemswell at 19:31 Crashed near Monchengladbach. Sgt Jankowski PAF lies in Rheinberg war cemetery. In 1940 he was the first c/o of 305 sqn.

the aircaft was on Ops to Essen.

crew

F/O K Romaniszyn PAF pow

S/L J Jankowski PAF KIlled

Sgt M Wozniak PAF pow

Sgt Z Abramik PAF pow

Sgt C Zaleski PAF pow


RE: Confirmation of crash site BK150
Author: Steve Heppenstall (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:07:59 Wednesday, December 8, 2004
Post:
Thank you for the quick response with the info on the crew of BK150, but I also have a copy of Chorley 43 where this information is written.

The major problem with the losses in my area is that where part or all of the crew were killed, they were taken to collection cemeteries in M%F6nchengladbach, D%FCsseldorf or Krefeld, depending on which Luftwaffe unit was dealing with the crash.

So when after the war the airmen were recovered from these cemeteries it was assumed that they crashed in the area, which is not the case in quite a few losses. Weeze is about 60 km away from M%F6nchengladbach.

Does anyone have the exact date when Jankowski died as the eyewitness that I talked to said one of the crew who was trapped in the wreckage,died one or two days later and another crew member roughly 6ft tall waited in the immediate area until he saw that the trapped crew member was being treated to, then disappeared towards Holland. Although later he must have been caught.

Does anyone know if a debreifing after the war of the surviving crew members exists and where I could get a copy from.

Steve