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Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn

Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Dave Johnson (Guest)
Time Stamp:
11:22:47 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Hello everyone,

Seeking information on two Coastal Command men who died in 1943.

BICKLEY, A H N 1057295 RAFVR Sgt

W.Op/AG 58 Sqn Died 24/1/43

YOUNG, G H 132011 RAFVR F/O

Nav/W.Op 235 Sqn Died 3/9/43

Many thanks,

Dave.


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
16:20:45 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Hello Dave,

YOUNG was on Beaufighter X - LX813 - crashed into sea 1 mile NNE of Redruth, Cornwall.

BICKLEY was on Halifax - DT684 - crashed Kingston Lacy Hall near Wimborne, Dorset.

Season greetings,

Henk.


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Dave Johnson (Guest)
Time Stamp:
17:03:45 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Henk,

For this and your other responses in 2004, thank you.

"Vrolijk Kerstfeest en een Gelukkig Nieuwjaar!"

Dave.


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: errol.martyn@xtra.co.nz (Guest)
Time Stamp:
19:31:06 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Dave,

Ref Bickley's loss, the following is an excerpt from my trilogy 'For Your Tomorrow - A record of New Zealanders who have died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services since 1915' (Volume Two: Fates 1943-1998)

Sun 24 Jan 1943

COASTAL COMMAND

Transit flight

58 Squadron, RAF (Holmsley South, Hampshire - 19 Group)

Halifax II DT684 - took off at 1335 captained by Flt Lt J F H Andrews, RAF, but crashed under power and caught fire 10 minutes later near Wimborne Minster, Dorset, killing all eight on board. The 2nd pilot is buried in Bransgore Churchyard, Christchurch East, Hampshire, together with three of his comrades, airmen of the RCAF. Immediately prior to the crash, DT684 was turning at low altitude in a patch of ground mist while attempting to investigate a suspicious object which the pilot had observed earlier. The accident card notes that the Halifax could become uncontrollable if too much rudder were applied in a slow left hand turn. Although an experienced pilot with over 500 hours solo to his credit, Andrews had flown only eight in command of a Halifax.

2nd Pilot: NZ415071 Fg Off Murray Archer LEGG, RNZAF - Age 32. 440hrs. 3 ops.

Henk, would you have a full list of this crew, please?

Errol



RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Dave Johnson (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:55:47 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Errol,

Thanks for the additional information on the Halifax (DT684).

The information that Henk, yourself and other kind contributors have provided this year has gone a long way in helping to piece together the 'stories' of the air force personnel buried in my home county. At the moment I have 78 names 'on file,' two-thirds of which now have at least some history to augment CWGC detail. ( I still have a query about a New Zealander buried at Kirton, Sgt T S Hewland, but that's for another day).

So, looking forward to the answers you'll conjure up in 2005!

"Meri Kirihmete"

Dave,

North Lincolnshire.


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Ross_McNeill
Time Stamp:
21:40:33 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 22-Dec-04 AT 09:42 PM (GMT)[/font][p]Hi Dave and Errol,

From the draft of Coastal Losses Vol 2.

LX813

Sgt H Picking

F/O G H Young

DT684

F/L J F H Andrews

F/O M A Legg RNZAF

F/O G R Pringle RCAF

Sgt A S Doull

Sgt S J Prince RCAF

Sgt A H N Bickley

Sgt L E Gilpin RCAF

Regards

Ross


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: errol.martyn@xtra.co.nz (Guest)
Time Stamp:
23:21:15 Wednesday, December 22, 2004
Post:
Ross,

Much obliged to you, thanks.

Errol


RE: Casualties; 58 Sqn / 235 Sqn
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
14:49:19 Thursday, December 23, 2004
Post:
Hi Ross, Dave and Errol,

Have same names as Ross except on DT684 also:

LAC(Elec.II) Albert H. HERBERT - 1094154. As Errol mentions in his For Your Tomorrow, Vol.2 p.55: - "killing all EIGHT on board".

Ross: was my letter delivered ?

Season greetings.

Henk.