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Squadron Leader Gates

Squadron Leader Gates
Author: Peter
Time Stamp:
22:40:36 Friday, October 7, 2005
Post:
Squadron Leader Gates arrived on 120 Squadron RAF on 5 August 1941 to take up duties as a Flight Commander flying Liberators, he had been posted from 119 Squadron.

I would like, if possible to discover his history on 119 Squadron and after he left 120 Squadron.

My understanding is that he was killed post war flying as a test pilot but I might be wrong.

Regards

Peter.



RE: Squadron Leader R.T.F. Gates
Author: Peter
Time Stamp:
09:04:18 Monday, November 7, 2005
Post:
Just discovered that S/L Gates enitials were R.T.F. He was posted from 120 Squadron on 31-1-42 to command 220 squadron, Wing Commander post.

Any more information in relation to his later war service and death?

Regards.

Peter.


RE: Squadron Leader R.T.F. Gates
Author: Ross_McNeill
Time Stamp:
09:13:25 Monday, November 7, 2005
Post:
Hi Peter,

Some snippets on Richard Thomas Fairfax Gates, 37064.

AP/O 16 Jan 1935

P/O 16 Jan 1936

F/O 16 July 1937

Survived the crash landing of M/120, AM910 on 06 April 1942.

Survived the crash of N/220, Fortress FK204 on 10 August 1942.

(See Jim Corbett's site for more details

Regards

Ross


RE: Squadron Leader R.T.F. Gates
Author: Jim Corbett (Guest)
Time Stamp:
09:23:44 Monday, November 7, 2005
Post:
Hi Peter & Ross,

FK402 crashed at Doddington Quarry near Wooler, Northumberland.

Peter - For further details do a search on our database at:

www.acia.co.uk

Jim


RE: Squadron Leader R.T.F. Gates
Author: Peter
Time Stamp:
11:18:33 Monday, November 7, 2005
Post:
Thanks Ross,

Its always good to have the full name and service number.

AM910 M/120 was the first LB.30B to be delivered to the UK arriving 7 April 1941. The aircraft then went to Heston Aircraft to become the trial installation aircraft for the definitive Coastal Command Liberator I.

She arrived on 120 Squadron 5 September 1941. I have in my records that the crash involving S/L Gates and M/120 happened on 5/6 November 1941. the aircraft crashed on landing at Nutts Corner causing damage to the undercarriage. I believe that M/120 was then SOC.

It seems that Gates lived up to his nickname. "Crasher Gates"

Jim, I shall be looking at your site. Thanks.

Regards

Peter.


RE: Squadron Leader Gates
Author: Terry
Time Stamp:
10:37:41 Wednesday, December 7, 2005
Post:
Peter, Further to Ross's reply, info from the LG except for the info re his death, which comes from The Times of 28 Jun 54:

Appt to an SSC as an APO on prob 16 Jan 35

PO 16 Jan 36

FO 16 Jul 37

A/FL 2 Mar 39

FL 16 Jul 39

SL (T) 1 Sep 40

Granted a permanent commn as a FL 16 Jan 41

WC (T) 1 Mar 42

FL (T/WC) to be SL wef 1 Sep 40 20 Nov 42

AFC WC 1 Jan 44

DFC WC, 53 Sqn 31 Oct 44

WC 1 Jul 47

Gp Capt 1 Jul 53

Killed Flying, Mamby, Lincs 24 Jun 54

Regards, Terry



RE: Squadron Leader Gates
Author: errol.martyn@xtra.co.nz (Guest)
Time Stamp:
11:44:33 Wednesday, December 7, 2005
Post:
Peter,

Thanks to Terry for providing the fatal accident date, the relevant entry in Colin Cummings 'To Fly No More - RAF aircraft accidents and write-offs 1954-1958' has been located:

"24 Jun 54 WH639 Canberra B2 RAFFC 2.5 miles south west of Doncaster 2 %7Bkilled%7D

The aircraft was seen to break up whilst flying at high speed at about 10000 feet. The cause of the structural failure could not be determined although various theories were put forward by the Board of Inquiry. Group Captain Gates had been awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for sinking a 'U' boat in 1944.

Group Captain Richard Thomas Fairfax GATES DFC AFC 40 Pilot

Flight Lieutenant Peter OLIVER Navigator"

Errol


RE: Squadron Leader Gates
Author: Peter
Time Stamp:
13:46:04 Wednesday, December 7, 2005
Post:
Ross, Jim, Terry and Errol,

I thank you all for your replys concerning S/L Gates. Over the years his name has cropped up during my research as he was my fathers flight commander, a/c captain on 120.

Its as I thought, he being killed in a flying accident, I just didn't have the details.

Once again, many thanks.

Best regards

Peter.