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Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.

Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: tomthorne83
Time Stamp:
19:14:32 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Hello all, just wondering if anybody would be kind enough to look up the following incident in BCL. I do not have this volume, but have the folloing from Air Britian Serials:

Whitley Z6465, crashed three miles NE of Tern Hill on return from an op to Brest, 3/3/41.

Thanks in advance, Tom


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: tomthorne83
Time Stamp:
19:21:02 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Sorry, one other thing i forgot to include! I am also keen to know the entry in BCL vol 1 for the following (I only have Vols 3-8 of BCL!). Also taken from Air Britian serials:

Hampden P2071, abandoned on an air test 3 miles NNW of Market Drayton, 23/12/40. 106 Squadron.

Thanks, Tom


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: penguin832au
Time Stamp:
19:36:18 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Hello Tom,

Can help wiyh one:

23 Dec 1940

106 Sqn Hampden I P2071 Training

Crashed 1930 at Adderley, 3 miles NNW of Market

Drayton, Shropshire. No injuries reported.

Sgt J E Sowden

Sgt Davies

The other is not at my finger tips at the moment

Tony W



RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: penguin832au
Time Stamp:
19:51:24 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Hello again:

For some reason I don't have the crew names, but:

58 Sqdn Whitley V Z6465 GE-U Op: Brest

T/o 1805 Linton-on-Ouse. Called on w/t at 23:50 Indicating that the sortie had been abandoned.

Crasbed 0156 and burst into flames 3 miles NE of Ternhill, Shropshire.

Tony W



RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: tomthorne83
Time Stamp:
20:14:40 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Cheers Tony, appreciate that. Someone will come up with the crew names hopefully? Thanks again, Tom


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: Highgroundsman
Time Stamp:
21:08:46 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Hi Tom,

Whitley Z6465 Crew:

SGT S.V.BUNN. (K)

SGT T.J.THURLING. (K)

SGT H.GORDON. (K)

SGT H.F.JENNINGS. (K)

SGT K.WRIGHT. (K)

Sorry unsure of crew positions. Probably Pilot,Nav, 2 W/AGs & Rear Gunner, But Could also be Pilot, 2nd Pilot, Obs, W/AG & Rear Gunner.

Regards.

Dave.



RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: tomthorne83
Time Stamp:
21:59:50 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
Thanks Dave thats great stuff. CWGC gives their roles as Pilot, pilot, Obs, W/AG and W/Op!

I was wondering if anyone with the 58 Sqn ORB, may be able to add a tiny bit extra to this? I am presuming that the aircraft was lost and running low on fuel and attemping a landing at Tern Hill? Maybe someone can help, Cheers, Tom


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: Highgroundsman
Time Stamp:
22:27:32 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 13-May-06 AT 10:43 PM (GMT)[/font][p]Hi Tom,

According to %60THE WHITLEY FILE%60 Z6465 Stalled and crashed 2 & 3/4 miles NE of Tern Hill returning from Ops to Koln (Chorley%60s book says Brest) I think latter is probably correct!

Looks like a stall was the cause of the crash,But what caused the stall?

You should be able to get a form 1180 on this from Hendon.

Re: HAMPDEN P2071.

According to %60HAMPDEN FILE%60 Harry Moyle. This aircraft was on a Night Test flight and abandoned by the crew near Nantwich,Cheshire after they got lost on 23/12/40.

Crew as above Sgt J.E.Sowden & Sgt Davies.

Regards.

Dave.


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: floyd williston (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:57:21 Saturday, May 13, 2006
Post:
According to The Hampden File, P2071 was abondoned while lost on a night flying test near Nantwich, Chester. Snowden and Davies bailed out safely.

(Floyd)


RE: Whitley crash 1941, 58 Squadron.
Author: tomthorne83
Time Stamp:
08:07:33 Sunday, May 14, 2006
Post:
Hi Dave and Floyd, thanks for the additional info, all very useful. No doubt the Hampden was abandoned over Nantwich and carried on flying before crashing near Market Drayton. I will be checking the 1180 Form for these, but i think it shall be a while until im down there again. Many thanks for the help, Tom