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Author: Mike4898
Time Stamp:
10:24:12 10 August 2006
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 10-Aug-06 AT 10:37 AM (GMT)[/font][p]Uggh not sure what happend there!

OK trying again...

I'm trying to work out the movements of my Father's Pilot, P/O William Archibald Young to see if he could have been in the USA at any point in his travels, specifically in the Boston, Massachussets area and perhaps had some leave there.

I now have Bill Young's records from the Australian Archives and he embarked from 1ED (Ascot Vale near Melbourne) on the 15th or 16th January 1943 with the next entry being notification of his arrival in the UK at 11PDRC on 17th March 1943.

Does anyone out there know what the likely route taken would have been and whether some R&R in the USA might have been possible?

All the best,

Mike

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mwainw4898/


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Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
16:24:21 10 August 2006
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Hello Mike,

Here are some of the details that I was provided by W/O Haines :

1 ED : 6/3/1943. Ship from Melbourne to San Francisco. Train from San Francisco to an army camp near Boston, from there by train to Halifax in Canada and then shipped to UK arrived 11 PDRC on 18/4/1943

Hope it helps you a little

Best regards from Belgium

Rene


RE: Post
Author: Mike4898
Time Stamp:
20:35:14 10 August 2006
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Brilliant, thanks so much.

Mike

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mwainw4898/


RE: Post
Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
09:39:36 11 August 2006
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-Aug-06 AT 09:40 AM (GMT)[/font][p][font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-Aug-06 AT 09:40%A0AM (GMT)[/font]

Mike

As Rene writes about another flyer ---

My RAAF father sailed from Melbourne, March 1943,disembarked San Francisco. By train across USA to camp near Boston, embarked Halifax NS at Pier 21 for England, April 1943 on the SS Louis Pasteur.Disembarked Bournemouth .

There is a museum at Pier 21

A Pier 21 researcher was very helpful to me.

Steven Schwinghamer. ResearchATpier21.ca

sub .A T. for AT

Anne



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Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
10:38:15 11 August 2006
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Hello Anne;

by coincidence, did he left Melbourne on the 6 , if so it will complete the biography of W/O haines by adding the ship name.

Best regards from Belgium

Rene


RE: Post
Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
11:40:19 11 August 2006
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Rene

I think it was 3rd-or 4th March but not absolutely sure as he said goodbye to my mother & myself, as a 3 week old baby, at the bus stop in Mosman ,a Sydney suburb, at beginning of March & must have travelled down to Melbourne to board a ship.

He sailed in the Louis Pasteur from Halifax.I'll try & find the name of the ship in which he sailed from Melbourne & date but means looking back at old letters from my father's training pal.

If you send your email I'll look for this information.

My email is storm04ATglobalnet.co.uk

sub. .A T. for AT

My RAAF father of 31 SAAF was MIA Oct'44 Italy .Liberator never found.

Anne


RE: Post
Author: Mike4898
Time Stamp:
12:10:34 11 August 2006
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Thanks for the further details both of you.

Any idea how long people stayed in the camp near Boston? Would Boston have been where aircrew waited for a suitable convoy ship to be ready to sail for the UK?

Both your examples show trips from Aus to the UK taking five to six weeks while Bill Young seems to have been in transit for just over two months. Would he have waited around in Boston for this extra time, therefore have had some time to get some R&R and possibly meet a few locals?

All the best,

Mike

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mwainw4898/


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Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
12:47:57 11 August 2006
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[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 11-Aug-06 AT 12:48 PM (GMT)[/font][p]Mike

I'd have to look up the answer to part of that query.

Give me a day or so.I'll put it on this post & for Rene as well.

I presume they sailed from Aus.via US/Canada to Britain because it was the safest way in wartime -rather than through the Suez canal ? The Atlantic crossing may have been dicey ?

Anne



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Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
13:15:53 11 August 2006
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Rene & Mike

I looked at my father's service records & he did embark on 6th March 1943 from Melbourne but so far I haven't found the ship name.Try Aus. National Archives ?

Still looking & also looking for a letter which explains time spent in US before embarking at Halifax N. S.

It will take time .

Anne


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Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
13:28:54 11 August 2006
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Hello Anne,

Thank you for your fast answer. They must have travelled together, unfortunately W/O Haines deceased a few years ago .

Any other info that you will see are very welcome.

Best regards from awet afternoon

Rene


RE: Post
Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
13:34:19 11 August 2006
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Rene

Could be a day or two but email me if you like ? Others may be interested in the ship ?

The goodbye at the bus stop in early March '43 was the last my mother saw of my father.

Anne


RE: Post
Author: aestorm
Time Stamp:
13:53:42 11 August 2006
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Rene & Mike

Quoting from Sam M's letter .He was my father's training friend & sailed Melbourne -Britain with him

Unfortunately I don't have a ship name ---from Port Philip, Melbourne

Pacific crossing -3 weeks via Wellington NZ

Disembarked Oaklands, San Francisco.

USA Transit - 4 days to Taunton army camp,Massachusetts.

Taunton Army Camp -plus or minus 10 days

To Halifax -1 day

Unescorted "SS Louis Pasteur" to Bournemouth, England -arrived 9th April '43

6th March -9th April = approx 34 days

Sam writes that some did stay & train in Canada from Taunton Army Camp .He kept a diary !!

Looks like they had some time at the Taunton army camp but any free time ??

Taunton is a large town south of Boston.

Anne


RE: Post
Author: Mike4898
Time Stamp:
14:16:17 11 August 2006
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More great information, thanks.

See http://users.tpg.com.au/adsls7ld/crews.html which has a couple of pictures takes on crews transitioning at Camp Myles Standish outside Taunton, USA.

It seems a reasonable bet that 10 days or so in this camp out of a 34 day transit might become 25 days or so out of a 60 odd day transit.

This is just what I was looking for, many thanks.

Mike

http://members.lycos.co.uk/mwainw4898/


RE: Post
Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
14:06:11 11 August 2006
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Hello Anne,

Please keep the forum inform, there is no secret if I can say.

Best regards

Rene