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P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615

P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
17:39:11 Thursday, February 1, 2007
Post:
'They Shall Grow Not Old' (Allison) mentions in Appendix-I (RAF Casualties in and near Canada) on page 846:

P/O Edward Thomas BRADFORD - 100615, of 118 Sqn, killed 27-11-1941 on Hurricane BW840 and commemorated on the Ottawa Air Force Memorial.

As far as I know was 118 (RCAF) Sqn never equipped with Hurricanes to defend the Canadian East coast. (Grumman Goblins later re-equipped with Kittyhawks).

BW840 actually was an existing serial number (Mk.II.B, built by Canadian Car & Foundry, retained in Canada).

It could be that he was 118 (RAF) Squadron and killed whilst flying a Goblin or Kittyhawk, or BW840 may be correct but assigned to another unit.

Who may help me to find an answer.

Regards,

Henk.


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:34:31 Thursday, February 1, 2007
Post:
Hi Henk

*905535 Pilot Officer Edward Thomas Bradford R.A.F.V.R. was ferrying Sea Hurricane Mk. XIIA s/n BW840 from the Canadian Car & Foundry plant at Fort William, Ontario.

The accident report says he force-landed at sea in bad weather and was presumed to have drowned. The time of the accident is listed as 20:25 hours.

The place listed on the report is quite faded, but it appears to read Atlantic.

* You will also notice the different personnel serial number listed than the one you have. This is what is written on the card. I checked with CWGC site and they have 100615

Cheers...Chris


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: BillWalker
Time Stamp:
21:39:04 Thursday, February 1, 2007
Post:
[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 02-Jan-07 AT 09:42 PM (GMT)[/font][p]Guys;

This was one of three Hurricanes lost on that date, all while being ferried from the factory at Fort William to Halifax by RAF crews. The RCAF record cards for these crashes don't quite agree with the personal recollections of the two survivng pilots, as reported in the book "The Hurricats". See my web page http://www.ody.ca/%7Ebwalker/RCAF_BW835_BW884.html for my take on the fates of BW838, BW839, and BW840.

118 (F) Squadron was responsible for storing and maintaining these aircraft, held as as spares for the Camships operating in and out of Halifax. Most were eventually transferred to the RCAF.

As always, I'm hoping Chris or some other reader can clear up any errors I have made.

Bill Walker

Canadian Military Aircraft Serial Numbers

www.ody.ca/%7Ebwalker/


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
22:11:36 Thursday, February 1, 2007
Post:
Hi Bill

Sea Hurricane Mk. XIIA s/n BW838 was being flown by 41717 Flying Officer Linney. He encountered high winds as his aircraft climbed to 1,500 feet. The Hurricane ended up out at sea and on his return, was forced to make a wheels-up landing on the beach. Linney did not recieve any injuries (well, maybe to his pride!). This was a Category 'B' accident. Unfortunately, the card does not give any other geographical information.

Sea Hurricane Mk. XIIA s/n BW839 was being flown by 41447 Flying Officer H. T. Mitchell. He encountered bad weather and was forced to put the aircraft down at East Petpeswick, Nova Scotia without any injury to himself. The crash was also assessed as Category 'B'.

Cheers...Chris


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: BillWalker
Time Stamp:
01:23:13 Thursday, March 1, 2007
Post:
Thanks Chris. That matches the information in "The Hurricats" by R. Barker. The photocopies I have of the RCAF History Cards for these three aircraft list Bradford as the pilot of BW838, and give the crash location as "NW of Dartmouth". "The Hurricats" lists the pilot as F/L A.S. Linney, then commander of the RAF's Halifax Pilot Pool of the Merchant Ship Fighter Unit, and quotes from an interview with him. The crash location is given as "a beach 30 miles south west of Halifax, near Liverpool, NS", not far from where BW839 also forced landed, and the other direction from Dartmouth.

The RCAF Card for BW840 lists the pilot as Bladford, crossed out, and then the comment "this accident occurred to BW838". It is easy to imagine there must have been some confusion within the RCAF that evening, as reports of two forced landings out in the boonies drifted in, plus a third aircraft missing, and all them nominally RAF at the time.

Linney stated that he thought Bladford had bailed out within site of a ship, but was never recovered. He doesn't give anything to back this up, and I haven't found anything to prove or disprove it. Only Linney's aircraft was equipped with a radio, borrowed from Ferry Command at Dorval, and it stopped working sometime during the next leg to New Brunswick. He had picked up an unexpected tail wind after climbing above the clouds to clear an overheating oil cooler, and was startled to see only ocean after he descended below the cloud cover when his dead reckoning put him just NW of Halifax. He turned around and flew west, running out of gas just as the beach came into view, and landed gear up on the sand. It appears that the other two aircraft, without radios, followed him through the climb and descent. He also stated that after that evening, the rest of this batch of Sea Hurricanes was delivered by train.

His main embarrassment was the loss of the radio, which never made it back to Ferry Command. The RAF maintenance officer who had lent the radio became Linney's boss at a British airline after the war, and apparently regularly asked him when he was going to pay for it.

Bill Walker

Canadian Military Aircraft Serial Numbers

www.ody.ca/%7Ebwalker/


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: Terry
Time Stamp:
00:55:00 Thursday, March 1, 2007
Post:
Gents, From the LG: 905535 Sgt Edward Thomas Bradford to be PO on probation (100615) wef 5 Jul 41. Regards, Terry


RE: P/O E.T. Bradford - 100615
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
11:19:18 Thursday, March 1, 2007
Post:
Chris, Bill and Terry, thanks again for this excellent information. What would my files look like without all your valued info. You again made a 73-year old happy and this all at the beginning of a new year of research.

Regards,

Henk.