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LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)

LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
12:20:55 11 January 2007
Post:
'They Shall Grow Not Old' (Allison) mentions that:

LAC William J. HOGAN - RAAF 411785, and buried in Barrie, Ontario was killed 24-2-1942, flying 'Harvard' serial 8127 assigned to 1 SFTS Camp Borden, Ontario.

Canadian serial 8127 however was a Yale aircraft.

Same date Yale serial 3373 of 14 SFTS, Aylmer, Ontario, was involved in a mid-air collision with Harvard serial 2623 based at Camp Borden, Ontario, killing LAC Neville A. LOGINOFF - RAAF 405631, also buried at Barrie, Ontario.

Do hope Chris (Charland) may be able to solve this puzzle, thanking him in advance for his help.

Regards,

Henk.


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Dean (Guest)
Time Stamp:
21:08:43 11 January 2007
Post:
Hi Henk,

According to the Australian War Memorial's Roll Of Honour both HOGAN and LOGINOFF were with 1SFTS.

Also, if I recall correctly the North American AT-6 "Harvard" was built in Canada by the Canadian Car and Foundry and called the "Yale".

I would hazard a guess (an uneducated one at that) and say these two men were killed in the same crash flying in Yale 8127 which collided with the 14SFTS aircraft.


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Dean
Time Stamp:
21:11:57 11 January 2007
Post:
Disregard the last sentence about aircraft colliding.


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: BillWalker
Time Stamp:
00:23:48 12 January 2007
Post:
Henk and Dean;

The Harvard and Yale were two distinct types in the RCAF. The Yales were all US built, model NA-64, while Harvards came from the US, Noorduyn, and CC&F in a range of models.

8127 was a Cessna Crane. Hopefully Chris can tell us if this is the aircraft involved.

Other Category A crashes on that date (that I know of) were Harvards 2847 (6 SFTS, had served previously with 1 SFTS) and 3072 (14 SFTS).

Bill Walker

Canadian Military Aircraft Serial Numbers

www.ody.ca/%7Ebwalker/


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Robert Stitt (Guest)
Time Stamp:
00:58:48 13 January 2007
Post:
Hi Bill:

At the risk of sounding pedantic, the Harvard and Yale were distinct types period, not just in RCAF service.

Regards:

Robert


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Chris Charland (Guest)
Time Stamp:
05:01:05 12 January 2007
Post:
Hi Henk

Loginoff was in Yale 3373 while Hogan was in Harvard 2623. Both aircraft were from No. 1 Service Flying Training School Camp Borden, Ontario. Both aircraft went down 2 miles south of the main aerodrome.

Loginoff was practicing formation flying while Hogan was flying sequences 7-8-9.

Incidentally, both were faulted for negligence in not keeping a proper lookout for other aircraft.

Cheers...Chris


RE: LAC W.J. Hogan - RAAF (killed in Canada)
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
17:10:00 13 January 2007
Post:
Thanks all, especially Chris, solving this problem.

Best regards,

Henk.