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'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)

'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Henk Welting. (Guest)
Time Stamp:
13:30:56 23 October 2007
Post:
What caused the death of following airmen, missing believed killed in action (Flight Global), buried in the Sage War Cem., Germany:

P/O Edgar H. CROSS - 79088, and

P/O Reginald W. NEWMAN - 79072.

It's possible they were aboard SS Abukir en route from Ostend, Belgium to U.K. and torpedoed near lightship 'Noordhinder' or another ship torpedoed same date en route from Dunkirk to U.K.

Also have 28 other names commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial and killed same date.

Regards and thanks for your help.

Henk.


RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Finn Buch (Guest)
Time Stamp:
19:29:18 23 October 2007
Post:
Hello Henk,

You are correct in your assumption (micro-film).

P/O Edgar H. CROSS - 79088, (SS Abukir)

P/O Reginald W. NEWMAN - 79072, (SS Abukir)

Take a look here for details about SS Abukir.

http://www.wrecksite.eu/details.aspx?1174

Best regards

Finn Buch



RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
10:16:58 24 October 2007
Post:
Thanks as well Finn for this confirmation. Please allow me to enter the remaining names of my 'unaccounted' list for 28-5-1940 and on the Runnymede Memorial on this board, for a check whether they were aboard a ship enroute to the U.K.

Regards,

Henk.


RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
13:04:41 24 October 2007
Post:
Finn,

Are these names on the micro film; all names commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial for 28-5-1940 (RP = Runnymede Panel number):

ON BOARD SS ABUKIR SUNK BY A GERMAN MTB NEAR LIGHTSHIP "NOORDHINDER" WHEN RETURNING FROM OSTEND TO U.K.:

AC1 Francis V. ADAMS - 613953 - RP24

Sgt Edward O. BARRATT - (from Belgium) - 504903 - RP11

P/O Frederick A. BARRATT - (from Belgium) - 79087 - RP7

AC2 Henry TOWNEND - 702908 - RP27

Sgt Martin L. TULLY - 504904 - RP20

LAC Arthur A. WEBBER - 551636 - RP24

LAC Arthur WHEELER - 507360 - RP24

Sgt John T. WHITELAM - 509797 - RP21

LAC Albert P. WHITEMAN - 334948 - RP24

F/O Albert H. WOOLCOCK - 73491 - RP6

F/Lt George L.P. ZECH - 73495 - RP5

MOST LIKELY DROWNED WHEN THE SHIP, THEY WERE ON, WAS SUNK OFF DUNKIRK:

AC1 Leslie H. BELLINGHAM - 618700 - RP24

F/Sgt Albert BURROWS - 349996 - RP10

AC2 James CHURCHYARD - 976350 - RP26

AC1 Ivor L. DAVIES - 511153 - RP25

AC1 Robert W. DICKSON - 537403 - RP25

W/Cdr James MacG. FAIRWEATHER - DFC - 7077 - RP3

AC1 Herbert H. GARDINER - 548223 - RP25

LAC Albert GLOVER - 351248 - RP23

LAC George E. HUMPHREYS - 636004 - RP23

F/O William H. HUMPHREYS - 73242 - RP6

AC1 John B. HUTCHISON - 632128 - RP25

Cpl Charles T. KEYTE - 531194 - RP22

AC2 Alasdair R. MacINTYRE - 967706 - RP27

LAC Jack R. RUSSELL - 550667 - RP24

S/Ldr Roger M. SANDERS - 75033 - RP4

F/Lt Humfrey E. SYMONS - 72952 - RP5

Regards and thanks for your help.

Henk.



RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Finn Buch (Guest)
Time Stamp:
18:06:40 24 October 2007
Post:
Hello Henk,

Below you will find my result. Nearly all (maybe all) seems to be related to the loss of SS Abukir.

ON BOARD SS ABUKIR SUNK BY A GERMAN MTB NEAR LIGHTSHIP "NOORDHINDER" WHEN RETURNING FROM OSTEND TO U.K.:

AC1 Francis V. ADAMS - 613953 - RP24 (3 Air Mission) *Same?

Sgt Edward O. BARRATT - (from Belgium) - 504903 - RP11 (Brussels)

Name spelled Edward D. BARRATT

P/O Frederick A. BARRATT - (from Belgium) - 79087 - RP7 (3 Mission) *Same?

AC2 Henry TOWNEND - 702908 - RP27 (SS Abukir)

Sgt Martin L. TULLY - 504904 - RP20 (SS Abukir)

LAC Arthur A. WEBBER - 551636 - RP24 (SS Abukir)

LAC Arthur WHEELER - 507360 - RP24 (SS Abukir)

Sgt John T. WHITELAM - 509797 - RP21 (SS Abukir)

LAC Albert P. WHITEMAN - 334948 - RP24 (SS Abukir)

F/O Albert H. WOOLCOCK - 73491 - RP6 (SS Abukir)

F/Lt George L.P. ZECH - 73495 - RP5 (SS Abukir)

MOST LIKELY DROWNED WHEN THE SHIP, THEY WERE ON, WAS SUNK OFF DUNKIRK:

AC1 Leslie H. BELLINGHAM - 618700 - RP24 (SS Abukir)

F/Sgt Albert BURROWS - 349996 - RP10 (SS Abukir)

AC2 James CHURCHYARD - 976350 - RP26 (SS Abukir)

AC1 Ivor L. DAVIES - 511153 - RP25 (SS Abukir)

AC1 Robert W. DICKSON - 537403 - RP25 (SS Abukir)

W/Cdr James MacG. FAIRWEATHER - DFC - 7077 - RP3 (SS Abukir)

AC1 Herbert H. GARDINER - 548223 - RP25 (SS Abukir)

LAC Albert GLOVER - 351248 - RP23 (SS Abukir)

LAC George E. HUMPHREYS - 636004 - RP23 (SS Abukir)

F/O William H. HUMPHREYS - 73242 - RP6 (SS Abukir)

AC1 John B. HUTCHISON - 632128 - RP25 (SS Abukir)

Cpl Charles T. KEYTE - 531194 - RP22 (SS Abukir)

AC2 Alasdair R. MacINTYRE - 967706 - RP27 (SS Abukir)

LAC Jack R. RUSSELL - 550667 - RP24 (SS Abukir)

S/Ldr Roger M. SANDERS - 75033 - RP4 (SS Abukir)

F/Lt Humfrey E. SYMONS - 72952 - RP5 (SS Abukir)

Best regards

Finn Buch



RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
19:53:22 24 October 2007
Post:
Hello Henk and Finn,

Just had a look on your list and found the following :

F/Lt Georges L.P. Zech

On the list I looked at :

F/Lt Zech-Dupont Georges , he is Belgian.

In front of his name the following letters ;

R.M. = Runny Mede could this be Medical evacuation.

There is no flying function written for him , ground officer ?

Best regards

Rene


RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Rene Romainville (Guest)
Time Stamp:
20:20:56 24 October 2007
Post:
Hello,

CWGC gives the following ;

Nationality : UK

Age : 39

Service Nr : 73495

Additional info : native of Belgium

Regards

Rene


RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen - 28-5-1940 (Germany)
Author: Henk Welting (Guest)
Time Stamp:
12:03:55 25 October 2007
Post:
Thanks Finn for your help; will amend my file on 'Abukir-casualties'. No idea what means "3 (Air) Mission".

Rene: ZECH is listed by the CWGC as ZECH and not ZECH-DUPONT. "RM" means that he is missing and his name commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial (Memorial for missing airmen).

He may have been a ground officer because he was aged 39.

Regards,

Henk.