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Ian Smith's WW2 career in RAF/SRAF - info requestIn the last hour it has been announced that the former Prime Minister of rebel-Rhodesia, Ian Smith, has died in Cape Town, aged 88. He was a fighter pilot in Europe in WW2 - probably with the RAF, rather than the SRAF. Does anyone happen to have access to any service details, please? Chris Scott PS: I attach Andy Ingham's thread from last month, on the subject of RAF flight-training in South Africa, and the then-Southern Rhodesia. [Ian Smith changed its name to Rhodesia when he declared UDI in 1965.] "Posted to South Africa as instructors - Recovered Post" Andy_Ingham (229 posts) 28-Oct-07, 08:25 PM (GMT) "Posted to South Africa as Instructors" On the 15 September 1943 three members of 127 Squadron were posted to South Africa as Instructors. They were: Sgt W Y Kinsman P/O J A McHarg F/S W J Willshaw Has anyone ever come accross these men in their research? Can someone give me a list of possible EFTS and SFTS in South Africa / Rhodesia so I can check ORB's when I next visit Kew. Any information about them much appreciated. Regards Andy Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top Table of Contents Subject Author Message Date ID RE: Posted to South Africa as Instr... galgos 28-Oct-07 1 RE: Posted to South Africa as Instr... ChrisScott 29-Oct-07 2 Lobby | Topics | Previous Topic | Next Topic Messages in this topic galgos (238 posts) 28-Oct-07, 09:33 PM (GMT) 1. "RE: Posted to South Africa as Instructors" Hi Andy, A few from my Dad's logbook in Southern Rhodesia: No. 28 EFTS Mt. Hampden No. 27 EFTS Induna No. 25 EFTS Belvedere No. 26 EFTS Guinea Fowl (Gwelo) No. 20 SFTS Cranborne No. 21 SFTS Kumalo No. 23 SFTS Heany No. 33 FIS Norton No. 24 BG and NS Moffat Hope this helps Regards Max Williams Portland, Dorset Remove | Alert Edit | Reply | Reply With Quote | Top ChrisScott (36 posts) 29-Oct-07, 01:44 AM (GMT) 2. "RE: Posted to South Africa as Instructors" Those were the days... Before my time, but Belvedere was near the Agricultural Showground in a suburb of the capital, Salisbury (now Harare), and was Salisbury Airport until 1956, after which it was closed. (Then the present one opened, and the RRAF established their New Sarum base there.) Mt. Hampden and Cranborne were also near Salisbury. Norton is a bit further out, on the Bulawayo road. Heany is Bulawayo. Don't know of the others, but Guinea Fowl near Gwelo (now Gweru) may have been replaced by Thornhill. Andy probably knows that the country's contribution to the war effort cut little ice with the Allies after WW2. Southern Rhodesia was self-governing and the most developed of the countries in the region after South Africa, but was refused independence in the 1960s - unlike neighbouring Northern Rhodesia, Nyasaland and Bechuanaland. This was because the sizeable white population refused to hand over political power overnight to the majority black population. By 1966, RAF Jave ....Read More.Chris Scott on 20th November 2007 02:30:33
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Pips, Squeaks, ZZ Landings & D/F HomingsThe original "Pipsqueak" used by the RAF was known as the Master Contactor, basically a clockwork mechanism in a small wooden box, using sponge rubber (I think it was called "Sorbo rubber" then) to absorb engine vibration so as to give the clockwork a reasonable life between overhauls. This box, which was only about 6 or 7 inches square, was located out of sight behind the pilot's seat in such aircraft as Hurricanes, etc, and was connected to the original TR.9 R/T set (and later to the VHF versions - TR.1143 I think) by a cable which included an on/off switch accessible to the pilot. This mechanism was supposed to be synchronised just prior to take off with the exact time being used by the relevant local Sector orgainsation, so that all formations in the air would be in "perfect harmony". As the clockwork was running continuously, the pilot could activate the circuit at will, with the leader of each formation normally having his Master Contactor operating continuously as well. The whole point of the Contactor was that for 14 seconds of each minute the clockwork would automatically permit the transmission of a fairly high "squeak" on a given frequency (I think the early TR.9s only had two) and because the timing of the transmission of each formation was on a different section of the clock, up to four formations could be similtaneously transmitting their individual signal without interferring with one another, with a 2 second "silence" being (in theory) provided between transmissions from four individual formation leaders. These transmissions ("squeaks") were picked up by very directional manually operated aerials at strategically located positions in each sector, and at least three of the bearings thus obtained were then passed by contunuously open phone lines to "Tri-angulation Stations" where approximate positions were workrd out, then passed on to "Filter Rooms", then to the Operations Room. As these positions were being continuously generated every single minute, the work of obtaining the bearings manually for four formations simultaneously was quite a physical one. The reason for all this activity was that early radar (RDF) did not really obtain any useful information over land, and it was up to this system to provide the location of each individual RAF fighter formation in a sector minute by minute (although the positions presnted in the Operations room would by necessity lag behind the current position by several minutes), with the Observer Corps providing approximate positions for each of the German formations, these having previously being identified by RDF over France and the English Channel (or North sea). Although it sounds pretty rough and ready, it did work, and that is how the Battle of Britain was fought and won. "Pip squeak" provided RAF formations, the Observer Corps the Luftwaffe locations, and the Operations rooms provided interception bearings for the British fighters to find the Germans. RDF only gave preliminary ....Read More.David Duxbury on 8th March 2008 04:05:53
No. 437 (RCAF) Sqn, May 1945Hello Mikkel, January 10, 2009. Seems my father once flew in Dakota, KG427 and not the newer Dakota, KN427 that is in the picture. I do not know if this will help you much but here is a transcript of my father's flight log for May 1945. My father was Thomas W. Connolly and he was a navigator in 437 Squadron. He would have been a pilot officer that May. You can see the flights, as they change base from Blakehill Farm, Wiltshire to Nivelles, Belgium, but he did not get to Copenhagen until May 9, so it was not him bringing a SHAEF Mission to Denmark. My father was in "C" Flight so maybe it was "A", "B" or "D [if there was one]" Flight that brought the SHAEF Mission. This was a very busy time for 437 Squadron and Dad was having to note down so many bases in a day (that he went to) that he no longer had space, to in his log, to say what the plane was carrying. Thank you for your article which sheds some light on what he was doing. - Date - - - hour - - - Aircraft - - - - - Pilot - - - - Duty - - - - - - Remarks - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Flying times - Day / Night 2 . 5 . 45 - - - - - - Dakota DU - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - Base [Blakehill Farm] . B56 [Evere, Bel.] . Base. - 4.20 - 6 . 5 . 45 - - - - - - Dakota DU - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - Base [Blakehill Farm] . B75 [Nivelles, Bel.] . Base. - 3.55 - 7 . 5 . 45 - - - - - - Dakota NS - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - Base . B75 . B56 . B111 [Ahlorn, Ger.] . B108 . B56 . B75. - 6.00 - 8 . 5 . 45 -|V. E. - Dakota NS - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B56 . B154 [Reinsehlen, Ger.] . B56 . B156 . B75. - 8.30 - 9 . 5 . 45 -|Day - Dakota DY - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B56 . B118 [Celle, Ger.] . B160 [Copenhagen/Kastrup] . B118 . B160. - 7.00 - 10 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DY - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B160 [Copenhagen/Kastrup] . B156 [Luneburg, Ger.] . B56 . B75. - 4.05 - 12 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DS - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B118 [Celle, Ger.] . B160 [Copenhagen/Kastrup] . B118 . B160. - 6.45 - 13 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DS - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B160 [Copenhagen/Kastrup] . B156 . B56 . B75. - 4.20 - 14 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DS - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B156 . B56 . B158 . B156 . B56 . B75. - 9.00 - 15 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota NT - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B48 [Amiens Fr.] . B156 . B56 . Dunsfold . B75. - 9.10 - - [ - about 12 days in Nivelles, Belgium to sleep off all those flying hours, maybe - ] - 28 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DW - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B51 [Lille/Vendeville, Fr.] . B156 . B51 . B156 . B75. - 9.45 - 30 . 5 . 45 - - - - - Dakota DG - F/Lt. McGregor - Nav. - B75 . B57 [Lille/Wambrechies Fr.].B154 . B156 . B56 . B75. - 5.30 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - / Day / Night - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Total May 78.20 - - - - /78.20 / Nil C. Sanderson S/L O. C. "C" FLT. He was back to B160 (Copenhagen/Kastrup) for short stops o ....Read More.Patrick on 10th January 2009 08:05:49
Hitler's U-boat War: the hunted, 1942-1945I mentioned this one on the other forum but thought it best to post it here for future reference. As the Allied methods of hunting U-boats improved, the coastal command squadrons became much more adept at finding and sinking the U-boats, particularly after mid-1943. The book, the second of two volumes, discusses these developments and has plentiful details about encounters between Allied squadrons and individual U-boats. It's a great resource with generous appendices and an extensive index. Hitler's U-boat war : the hunted, 1942-1945 By: Blair, Clay. | Year of publication: c1998. | Publisher: Random House, ....Read More.dfuller52 on 25th March 2009 09:38:03
Liberator Mk II AL seriesThank you Franek & Bruce, July 21 & 22, 2009. On February 6, 1943, Liberator AL587 took 08.25 hours to get from Lyneham to Gibraltar. (The Gibraltar/Cairo leg was longer at about 11 hours.) This was my father (W/O Connolly)'s third and last flight to Gibraltar. Dad had just moved up from Flight Sergeant to Warrant Officer and had about 480 flying hours at that time, where he was outranked by the other navigator; Renouf, who was a Flying Officer. On this trip there did seem to be a lot of rest time between the long flights. On March 23, 1943, Liberator AL587 (probably) with mostly the same crew aboard took a little longer and is overdue by about 66 years. Does anyone know if Liberator AL587 has come home yet? I am sure my father joined them in 2003 and perhaps they do need another navigator to bring them home. Was there a second navigator who went in my fathers place? From March 29, to April 12, 1944, Dad was in 44 Group Battle School, Torquay [We have the group picture.]. (Torquay is a little sea side port town in Cornwall south of Exmouth.) Perhaps Dad was not on Liberator AL587 that March because of him being slated to go to this school. After February Dad did not fly again until he flew his last flight in a Liberator on April 3, 1943 where he took Liberator AL625 from Lyneham to Prestwick. [He came back in Oxford 4048 but; we have a picture of Oxford AS278 with AS770 and I do not know where it was taken and I do not think Dad flew them. Sorry we have no Liberator pictures.] Regards, Patrick Connolly. February 4, 1943 10:25 AL.587 F/L Francis (Pilot). (Duty) Navigator - Consumption test. 05.35 February 6, 1943 07:20 AL.587 F/L Francis (Pilot). (Duty) Navigator - Lyneham to Gibraltar. 08.25 hours (Day) February 7, 1943 19:20 AL.587 F/L Francis (Pilot). (Duty) Navigator - Gibraltar to Cairo (LG224). 02.10 hours (Day) 08.10 hours (Night) February 21, 1943 22:15 AL.587 F/L Francis (Pilot). (Duty) 2nd Navigator - Cairo to Gibraltar. 05.25 hours (Day) 07.00 hours (Night) February 27, 1943 00:45 AL.587 F/L Francis (Pilot). (Duty) 2nd Navigator - Gibraltar to Lyneham. 01.45 hours (Day) 07.00 hours (Night) F/L Francis Pilot} F/S Ferro - 2nd [Dad identified him in our crew picture]} F/O Renouf - Nav.} } Missing 23/3/43 W/O Connolly - Nav.- | F/O Tedder - W/oP [Dad identified him in our crew picture]} } Last Heard Sgt. Burry - W/oP} off C.P. Finisterre [Spain] Sgt. Marvin - Eng.} ....Read More.Patrick on 22nd July 2009 12:22:36
!!!Lancaster JB221 - No 97 Sqdn - Crash on 25./26. November 1943!!!Felix This is the website for Port Chester NY newspaper & contact page. Some of Brown's relatives may still live there ? There are 34 Browns in the US white pages phone /address directory !! [put US white pages into google] For Watson in Hawes go to then the phone book- residential ,then Watson in name & Hawes in town.There are 5 pages of Watsons but some are in the NE of Yorkshire so try the Watsons in Leyburn or Middleham . Otherwise for Watson try letters to the Yorkshire newspapers or phone about the story of the plane & finding relatives ----[emails to reporters are rarely answered] but ,from my experience, the northern UK local newspapers are good at reporting this sort of search story . Darlington & Stockton Times Newspapers & Magazines Tel: 01748 825281| 3, King St, Richmond, North Yorkshire DL10 4HP Northern Echo Newspapers & Magazines Tel: 01748 850407| 3, King St, Richmond, North Yorkshire DL10 4HP Presumably there is a system for informing Runnymede Airforce Memorial that the bodies of these crewmen have been found & identified & are not longer missing ? Regards Anne ....Read More.aestorm on 10th January 2010 09:44:12
F/L Walter Ronald GARDINER (37807)Well, he's NOT on the BoB RoH which a bit surprising given his rank only a year later. Flight Archives has this:- 1936 | 1613 | Flight Archive W. R. Gardiner, to No. 8 Flying Training School, Montrose, 21.5.36 and 1937 | 1206 | Flight Archive ... Pilot Officers on the dates stated:óW. R. Gardiner (December 24, 1936); Can't find anything else so hopefully better informed Pals will be along shortly!! ....Read More.KevinW4 on 19th January 2010 06:21:02
S/Ldr. Ronald 'Taffy' Ecclestone DFC - Test PilotThese two reports in the Fligth magazine area contemporary reference from 1954. Loss of the Victor ON Wednesday, July 14th, the first prototype Handley Page Victor, WB 771, was completely destroyed at Cranfield, Beds. The aircraft was carrying out position-error trials, and had made numerous runs at about 100ft altitude (the "sea-level" case) each at a higher airspeed than the one previous. At about 1 p.m. the bomber was approaching the airfield at |tf s height when it was seen to be behaving erratically. Eye-wisSesses stated it made a sudden dive and then levelled out agajtiff and that at this stage the whole horizontal tail assembly wCs fluttering badly. The complete tailplane and elevators then broke away and rose above the flight-path, while the remainder of the aircraft went straight into the ground at full power striking exactly at the intersection of two runways. Disintegration was complete, and appears to have been accompanied by fire, although the spread of the wreckage obviated any conflagration in jtie. normal sense of the word. The horizontal tail surfacey 'came to rest on the airfield; they were substantially intact and may therefore yield valuable evidence. None of the Jtrew of four escaped. The aircraft was being flown by the,.company's deputy chief test pilot, F/L. R. V. Ecclestone, D.F.C, A.F.C. Thirty-one years of age, he flew Stirlings and Lancasters in Bomber Command, and also Hurricanes and Spitfires in the Bomber Defence Tactical Unit. Later he was engaged in development flying, successively at Marham, Boscombe Down and Farnborough; he had completed the Empire Test Pilots School course and had served for a year in the Directorate of Operational Requirements at the Air Ministry. He had joined Handley Page, Ltd., less than three months before the accident. Also on board were Mr. E. N. Kenneth Bennett, 29, the company's chief flight observer (he joined them in 1946); and two other H.P. observers, Mr. Bruce Heithersay, 28 (ex-R.A.A.F.), and Mr. A. B. Cook, 24 (formerly with Aero Research, Ltd., and Glosters). On learning of the accident Mr. Duncan Sandys, Minister of Supply, sent telegrams of condolence to Sir Frederick Handley page and to the next-of kin of the crew. Mr. Sandys also made a brief statement on the crash in reply to a Commons Question on Monday last, The Victor first flew on Christmas Eve 1952. During the early part of this yearit was returned to Radlett for extensive modification. The second prototype is now virtually complete, and is having functional tests." And the enquiry statement: There is a long pencil mark through all the text so have a read of the page itself, search for Ecclestone in 1954 if the link above does not work. ....Read More.dennis_burke on 1st February 2010 05:06:32
Douglas Pearce, R.I.P.,_Douglas/ PEARCE, FS Douglas Roland (R86900, later J18464) - Distinguished Flying Medal - No.78 Squadron - Award effective 13 May 1943 as per London Gazette dated 18 May 1943 and AFRO 1078/43 dated 11 June 1943. Born 14 January 1920; home in Edmonton. Trained at No.5 BGS and No.3 WS. Remained in postward RCAF (20168); Retired 2 February 1971. Photo PL-19709 shows the following personnel after investiture at Buckingham Palace: P/O D.R. Pearce, DFM (Edmonton), P/O E.C. Stewart, DFM (Camrose, Alberta), FS D.J. McCoy, DFM (Napanee, Ontario), P/O R.A. Shannon, DFM (Winnipeg), and P/O F.R. Zulauf (Milverton). PL-19716 shows Pearce with a friend, Warrant Officer W.G. Evan (Makinak, Manitoba). Photo PL-19711 shows a group of Western Canadian personnel attending Buckingham Palace investiture - F/L E.H. Thomas (New Westminster), Warrant Officer E.A. Taylow (Vancouver), P/O R.A. Shannon (Winnipeg), P/O E.C. Stewart (Camrose, Alberta), F/O D.R. Pearce (Edmonton), Warrant Officer W.G. Evan (Makinak, Manitoba, who accompanied Pearce) and FS D.J. McCoy (Carruthers, Saskatchewan). Photo PL-19712 taken 5 November 1943 shows the following after investiture at Buckingham Palace: Front RowĒ Warrant Officer W.G. Evan of Makinak, Manitoba (no award but accompanying friends), FS H.J. OíConnor DFM of Napanee, Sergeant D.V. Smith DFM of Toronto, Warrant Officer E.A. Taylor DFM of Vancouver, FS D.J. McCoy DFM of Carruthers, Saskatchewan, P/O F.R. Zulauf DFM of Milverton, Ontario; Back Row: P/O R.B. Charters DFM of Brampton, Ontario, P/O E.H. Thomas DFM of New Westminster, P/O R. Dorland DFM of Islington, Ontario, F/L C.D. Perkins DFC of Fonthill, Ontario, P/O D.R. Pearce DFM of Edmonton, P/O E.C. Stewart DFM of Camrose, Alberta, and P/O R.A. Shannon DFM of Winnipeg. PL-21664 is a portrait. Postwar he was Commended for Valuable Services in the Air (Flight Lieutenant, 20368, as per AFRO 117/54 dated 5 March 1954). "This airman has taken part in numerous operational flights. He has invariably displayed outstanding efficiency. The calm and gallant manner in which he completes his duties has always set an excellent example to his crew." NOTE: Public Records Office Air 2/8951 has original recommendation dated 21 March 1943 when he had flown 26 sorties (190 hours three minutes). 31 July 42 Dusseldorf (5.05) 1 Oct 42 Flensburg (6.09) Fires seen in built-up area. 5 Oct 42 Aachen (6.09) Scattered fires around target. 6 Oct 42 Osnabruck (5.50) Bursts seen in target area. 8 Oct 42 GARDENING (3.56) Storms encountered; parachutes not seen to open. 13 Oct 42 Kiel (7.07) 15 Oct 42 Cologne (6.22) 15 Nov 42 Genoa (10.27) Bombs exploded south of railways. 18 Nov 42 Turin (8.50) Fires observed to SW of town. 22 Nov 42 Stuttgart (9.17) 28 Nov 42 Turin (9.30) Bombs burst in north of town. 2 Dec 42 Frankfurt (1.40) Returned early; port inner engine unserviceable. 6 Dec 42 Mannheim (8.43) Glow of incendiaries seen in aimi ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 12th April 2010 01:43:27
Russian AwardsA recent thread on the other side of the Board moves me to provide the following for whoever might be intested, representing as it does all that I currently have to hand on the subject. Much of the following is drawn from file Air 2/4798, which also contains recommendations for several officers which were not approved. There is much discussion in the file as to how the honours were to be worn, as Russian practice was to wear the whole medal when possible, and not merely indicate an award with a ribbon. BARBER, Douglas, F/O (49574) - Medal of Valour (Soviet Union) - No.180 Squadron - awarded as per London Gazette dated 11 April 1944. Citation from Air 2/4798, courtesy of Tom Thorne. "This officer has been engaged on active operations since 1940 and has completed 74 sorties involving attacks on a wide variety of targets. During the fighting in France, in the early stages of the war, he was shoot down and wounded after completing five missions. In the role of wireless operator/air gunner Flying Officer Barber displayed great skill and determination ans his successes include the destruction of two enemy aircraft on the ground. He is now employed as gunnery leader. Throughout his long tour his efforts have been characterized by by great courage and unswerving devotion to duty and his example has been worthy of the highest praise." BENNETT, Donald Clifford Tyndall, A/V/M, CBE, DSO - No.8 Group, Bomber Command - Order of Alexander Nevsky - awarded as per London Gazette dated 11 April 1944. Citation from Air 2/4798, courtesy of Tom Thorne. "Air Vice-Marshal Bennett is a fine operational pilot. He has displayed exceptional determination and efficiency. As Air Officer Commanding of the Path Finder Force his personal bravery and skilful leadership have resulted in daring attacks against enemy targets." BROWNING, John George (87854) S/L - Station Headquarters, Sollum Voe - Order of the Red Star - awarded as per London Gazette dated 11 April 1944. Citation from Air 2/4798, courtesy of Tom Thorne. "As Senior Station Intelligence Officer, Squadron Leader Browing was personally responsible for the collection and preparation of all intelligence data, characteristics of bases and flight details for all the North Russian operational transit flights, convoy escorts and Arctic reconnaissances." BUSWELL, John Richard, Warrant Officer (513036) - No.30 Mission, Royal Air Force Party ďAĒ, Archangel - Order of the Red Star - awarded as per London Gazette dated 11 April 1944. Citation from Air 2/4798, courtesy of Tom Thorne. |Warrant Officer Buswell is the Signals Officer at Archangel. He displayed great ability in the original installation and subsequent maintenance of his equipment, sometimes under very difficult conditions. It has been largely due to his personal efforts that the wireless links at the station have been so successfully maintained from October 1941 to the present time." CALLINSON, Cyril, Flight Sergeant (620212) - Meda ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 28th April 2010 07:54:43
Crash sites[QUOTE=captain_m;49971]Hi guys I recently watched the Timewatch program about Adrian Warburton. The German historian (I think his name was Grimminger) had a micro film listing crash sites of allied aircraft. The list was in date order and recorded aircraft type and crash location. Does anyone on this forum know where I can get hold of a copy of these micro films? Thanks in advance NM[/QUOTE] There's English-language transcriptions of German crash lists over at . For example, here's the series for all of 1943 is here:|38633121 You'll need to subscribe to see the images. Failing that, one can sign up for one free week, and download to one's heart's content. The server tends to respond slowly though, and the images are large, so be prepared to use a vast amount of time. The series for 1944 start here:|38647749 however they go in monthly blocks. About 1,000 pages worth of information, IIRC. ....Read More.mhuxt on 18th June 2010 05:29:21
Losse 3 May 1942Hello, Using Geoff Sullivan's search engine with "30 April 1942" and "R.C.A.F." gives 7 hits : Search results for: + 30/04/1942 + ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE. records found: 7 PREVIOUS | NEXT Page 1 of 1 001 BURKHOLDER GW R/53284 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 002 DAVIS R R/104949 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 003 KLEINAU HCG R/138284 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 004 LEFEBVRE GR R/62661 158 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 005 MCGUIRE HF R/80680 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 006 PATENALL DH R/60510 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE 007 ROBERTSON HM R/63605 99 RAF SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL CANADIAN AIR FORCE Only one is commemorated on Runnymede : Name: LEFEBVRE, GORDON RANDOLPH Initials: G R Nationality: Canadian Rank: Flight Sergeant Regiment/Service: Royal Canadian Air Force Unit Text: 158 Sqdn. Age: 35 Date of Death: 30/04/1942 Service No: R/62661 Additional information: Son of Napoleon and Ethel Lefebvre, of Cornwall, Ontario, Canada; husband of Marguerite Lefebvre, of Cornwall, Ontario. Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 105. Memorial: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL Chorly volume 3 indicates he was a member of a Wellington crew lost during a raid against Ostende (Belgium), so quite far from Britanny. Keeping the same date and entering "R.A.F." instead of "R.C.A.F." produces 30 hits : 001 ASHLEY WD 967106 269 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 002 BEASLEY EJ 103012 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 003 BOALER E 1211640 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 004 BOYCE D 1023450 269 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 005 CHADWICK SF 916276 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 006 CLAYTON R 974601 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 007 CULLINANE E 1020562 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 008 EDWARDS KW 82911 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 009 ELLISON S 1134073 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 010 FIGGINS RJ 1219498 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 011 FREEAR DR 1059256 158 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 012 GIBBS HT 560149 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE 013 HOLDSWORTH RWG 74352 502 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 014 KIRKHAM SG 1180125 976 BALLOON SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 015 LEE AH 1375422 269 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 016 LEWIS J 976547 24 SQDN 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 017 LIVINGSTONE AD 33514 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE 018 LONGHURST A 1262258 - 30/04/1942 ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE 019 RAMSAY I 69642 24 SQDN 30/04/1942 R ....Read More.jossleclercq on 13th August 2010 12:26:41
A question for our French experts...Hello, I was waiting for another Frenchman to step in first... Exactly as Laurent, I'm French. Ask me anything about the R.A.F. and Kew, and I can probably help you... I'm no expert in the Armée de l'air, I know the subject, but not in depth. I've checked files at SHD(Air) / previously SHAA, but not specifically combat reports from 1939-40 period. They indeed hold combat reports for the Free French units, which are duplicates of what can be found in the AIR 50 series at Kew. Their website is not user-friendly, and one orders documents in advance, one's never sure that the order has been received and will be treated. Last March, they gathered together the different reading rooms into a single one, and advance booking and reservation of files (3 days in advance is recommended, 8 days in advance for the Gendarmerie files) is the rule. You can't step in and ask for a document like you would do in Kew, if you have a couple of hours to spare, and you're in the area. The only thing you might be able to do is go to the library to read books. Problem is that there was no online catalogue. So it's really hard to order files in advance if you haven't research the references during your previous visits, in the old paper files / catalogue. it seems that they are now building up an online catalogue, but so far I've not finished my own list of references to check, so I've never tried this new online catalogue. The website site main entrance is The online catalogue seems to cover only the libraries :|Instrument+de+recherche+(bibliothèques)| The FAQ is here : I'm afraid you can't e-mail them directly, as Laurent suggests. You have to write them by postal mail : Or send a message through their moderating board. Good luck ! Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 1st September 2010 11:52:59
Test Flying Memorial WebsiteI now have a copy of the missing 2 pages (if anyone wants them!) 1908-14 | 1915-18 ....Read More.paulmcmillan on 24th September 2010 12:22:24
Film - School For DangerBob It's now available - as a DVD .Search in DVD blu-ray section From Amazon's site - "Now It Can Be Told [1944] - IMPERIAL WAR MUSEUM Official Collection [DVD] RAF Film Production Unit (Actor), Central Office of Information 1946 (Actor) | Rated: Parental Guidance | Format: DVD Synopsis Originally produced as a public information film but not screened until 1946 (as SCHOOL For DANGER) this programme studies the invaluable work carried out during World War II by SOE agents who were trained to assist resistance groups in their fight against Hitler. The 'stars' of the film are two actual British agents, Captain Harry (Felix) Ree and Jacqueline (Cat) Nearne. In addition to real agents the film depicts actual procedures and locations used in agent training. " Anne ....Read More.aestorm on 23rd November 2010 12:35:00
Chindit 1943 Air Liaison officers.Steve (Bamboo) and all, I'd seen your original query but missed the name Doug MILLS until now. Doug corresponded with me in the early 1990s regarding my RAF Liberator/Rangoon Jail investigations. Snooping through my files, I found that he had sent me a two-part memoir printed in the Dec '90 and Feb '91 issues of AUSSIE DEKHO!, the newsletter of the Burma Star Association's New South Wales branch. Had completely forgotten about this little gem, so thanks for the spark that led me to rediscover it. Though it's a bit long, I thought I'd copy Doug's full recollection, written with a healthy sense of humor (except for the ending's serious tone). I'm not sure if he was an Aussie in the RAF or had emigrated to Australia post-war. A wonderful bloke -- as one can guess from his writing -- he passed away in the last five years or so. Doug is referenced in Hugh's 20 April posting (591733 Corporal and A/Provisional Sergeant D.L.L. Mills, 30 March 1943), and also in Hugh's 22 April posting (591733 CPL A/SGT MILD D.L.L. ATTACHED BRIGADE H.Q.). Cheers, Matt ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Memoir of RAF 591733 Sergeant Douglas Lionel Leonard Mills A Royal Air Force Chindit Doug Mills I should start by giving a bit of background as to how I, a member of the Royal Air Force, came to be in the ranks of the Chindits. I had been in the R.A.F. since early 1939, and by the middle of 1942 I was a sergeant involved with Coastal Defence from out of Karachi. (I don't know how many people can remember our bi-planes, Wapiti's with Lewis gun firing through the prop, more like 1919 than 1941.) Anyway at this time I was recuperating in Bombay from an accident and had nothing official to do except report daily to the Base Personnel Office in Sir Phirosha Meta Road, just in case I was required. One morning I saw in Routine Orders an item calling for volunteers for a special mission. This did surprise me somewhat as I had always been given to understand that, unlike Hollywood, the forces rarely called for volunteers, they just detailed you to any job or duty they thought fit! Anyway,something (curiosity I think) impelled me to follow it up and see the C.O., who asked a number of questions, but oddly enough did not query my sanity, eventually telling me that I would be sent to Delhi for interview. Having arrived in Delhi, which after Bombay I found to be quite cold at night, I was taken by a Flying Officer somebody or other to be interviewed by Air Vice Marshal Williams and Air Commodore Darvell. I was ushered into their presence and actually asked to sit down, presumably to make it easier for me to withstand any shocks. I was questioned at length but was not given a great deal of detail as to what I was to do, just that I would find out when I arrived, if I went! I was also told that I would have no better | than a fifty fifty chance of getting back in one piece, plus a casual aside that as far as was known the Japs were not keen on taking pris ....Read More.Matt Poole on 23rd April 2011 10:03:21
Hawker Hind crash K6758 (04/03/1940)YOu won;t get anything offcial online at the moment but we did discuss this loss years back on the forum. Since the IT wizardry behind the old forum has fallen over I've extracted the relevent parts below. You can order a copy of the Air Ministry Form 1180 from teh RAF museum in hendon via their Doris reaserch office. Email them from here: Old mesage forum thread:------------ 'Unaccounted' airmen 4-3-1940 Henk Welting (Guest 09/24/2007|F/O (Pilot) Russell BELL - 70791, of 5 FTS (Sealand, Flintshire), lies buried Wavertree (Holy Trinity) Churchyard, Liverpool (UK880). I've a note that he died at Hoylake, pres. whilst ferrying an aircraft. Hind I - K6758 - 12 MU - dived into ground Hoylake Beach, Cheshire. It could be possible that also Sgt Frederick L. LEE - 742543, buried at Mitcham (London Road) Cem., Surrey (UK4269), was killed in this accident. If F/O Bell was the only occupant of Hind K6758, it could be possible that Sgt Lee's aircraft was either: Audax K8334 of 3 FTS (crashlanded South Cerney), or: Wallace II - K3672 - 3 BGS - flew into ground Langford Lodge. Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen 4-3-1940|DaveW09/24/2007 Henk Lee's death does not appear in the registers of either England & Wales or Scotland. Maybe the Irish connection?? Regards DaveW RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen 4-3-1940|Henk Welting (Guest)||07:56:53|09/25/2007| Thanks Dave. I checked several websites on losses in Eire and Northern Ireland without success. But everything is possible, I even found two burials in the U.K. of airmen repatriated after the war from Canada. Regards, Henk. ....Read More.dennis_burke on 21st December 2011 06:45:57
Dennis SM BurrellHe was discussed way way back on this old forum thread Old threads hard to read but here is the crucial answer I think RE%3A P%2FO D.S.M. Burrell - Harry Jamieson (Guest)|| 16:03:32|04/17/2007| Henk FO Burrell was captain of an Anson sorry I don't have the serial no. of 269 sq and was killed in an attack on an enemy flying boat off Norway. The observer Sgt pilot W E Willetts brought the plane safely back to Montrose. ....Read More.dennis_burke on 12th January 2012 07:32:44
407 squadron dec 05 1941My uncle was Ronald Fido on the 5 Dec flight and I would be grateful for any information you may have re him and the squadron. I have a picture of four crew members standing by the front of the plane. As I am new to these sites |'m not sure how to send it to any one. Any help gratefully accepted ....Read More.chazbird on 30th September 2012 02:16:15
18056 Flight Lieutenant Kenneth MacOnochie, 19.11.39Hi Colin The Old Board only exists in text with all the old formating codes visible. Cut and paste the link into your browser URL/Address bar then hit return. This will bring it up. To make things more readable then carry out the action to decode given by Dennis in the last page of the sticky message at the top of the forum index page. The result is a Thread from Henk in 2007: 2||0|0|yes 0|0|'Unaccounted' airmen 19-11-1939|Henk Welting (Guest)||08:57:42|08/26/2007|Looking for info on two airmen killed on active service 19-11-1939 F/Lt (Pilot) Kenneth MACONOCHIE - 18056, buried Camerton (St.Peter) Churchyard, Somerset. Possible aircraft: Gladiator I - K7950 - 12 Gp Pool - dived into ground Little Rissington (for this aircraft already as a casualty: Sgt [Pilot] Kenneth J. LINTON - 740020). Harrow II - K6939 - 9 BGS - crashed on take-off Penrhos. P/O (Pilot) Douglas R.J. PATERSON - 74972, buried Pwllheli Borough Cem., Caerns. Possible aircraft: Hart I - K3762 - 7 FTS - crashed in forced landing Peakirk, Northants. Magister I - L5979 - RAF Marham - crashlanded Newmarket (for this aircraft already have F/Lt [Pilot] C.H. SIMPSON, who survived the accident). Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. 1|1|RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen 19-11-1939|DaveW||10:00:35|08/26/2007|This response may appear twice, I thought I had already posted. Both deaths are registered at Pwllheli so the Harrow it is DaveW 2|2|RE: 'Unaccounted' airmen 19-11-1939|Henk Welting (Guest)||10:14:43|08/26/2007|As ever thanks Dave for your never ending support ! Henk. ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 1st October 2012 03:10:33
Two Yanks with No. 401 SquadronThank you, gentlemen. I have just found this webpage. Some details must be incorrect.|en&submit22=Traduire Edit: his full name was Robert Douglas Hobert ( ....Read More.Fox on 4th December 2012 12:38:04
Flight Sgt. Leonard Stott RAFVRLeonard Stott was the pilot of the crew that included my Mother's cousin George Moreman, all were killed when Wellington JA475 crashed 12th Oct 1944. I am searching for a person called Alastair who posted the following in a reply to Henk Welting dated 5th April 2007. Alastair has documents and effects of Leonard and his brother and I have been trying to find relatives or people connected with this crew since 2004. If anyone can put me in touch I would be extremely grateful. 8|1|RE 59 Sqn crew on the Malta Memorial|Al (Guest)||21:07:34|05/04/2007|Good evening Henk Some of the details you have on this crew are incorrect. ASgt Ernest Stott is actually Sgt 938915 Thomas Alexander Stott he was born in Halifax. I am sitting here with his medals letters and the telegrams to his father in front of me here. I also have his brothers effects here too. (Flt Sergeant Leonard Stott was killed in a flying accident during training in 1944). I have visited his family house in Halifax albeit now empty and boarded up.The RAF Air Historical Branch has supplied me with the details on the Hudson however I canít find the letter at present I will look for it and put the details on the board when I have them. Andrew Hendrieís excellent book on the Hudson shows two aircraft being lost at that time flying out to the Far East to build up the defences there. A passage in the book details the transit flight and states that two Aircraft were lost in the journey over the Med and another at Bombay see page 95 of Lockheed Hudson in World war II by Andrew Hendrie I have letter to his mother where he sends her his Air Force colours the colours from his bush-hat band to keep for good luck. He asks for a photo of the family to be sent to him to get to him by Saturday he must be down to leave the UK that weekend.I will post more detail when I have it to hand.All the best Alastair. 9|2|RE 59 Sqn crew on the Malta Memorial|Henk Welting (Guest)||11:56:38|05/05/2007|Thanks Alistair. Was already informed by Dick that Stott should be %22T.A.%22 and I corrected message 4 on this thread That his brother Leonard James also was killed in 1944 is not mentioned by the CWGC in their biographies however was in my files Wellington - 14 OTU - JA475 - 12-10-1944 and I made cross-references. Regards Henk. 10|3|RE 59 Sqn crew on the Malta Memorial|Al (Guest)||13:21:15|05/05/2007|Hi Henk I missed the correction you made very sorry. Not the heat just my excitement in seeing one of my men behind the medals on the web. The details from the AHB Confirm the Hudson serial as AE539 and the record of the loss is dated 30 June 1942. The passenger is confirmed as a Mr C R Edge. I canít find anything on him at all he isnít listed as civilian death on the CWGC. The other Hudson lost on the Transit Flight to Malta is listed as AE506. You donít have any info on that aircraft or its crew do you? If you would like a scan copy of any of the details letters etc I have on Sgt Stott you only need to ask. Chee ....Read More.Gunner on 19th December 2012 08:05:03
Hunting the Weather: RAF Met Operations Described in 1935Found this newspaper article thought it would interest some here!| By John Fugh late of the R.A.F. ....Read More.paulmcmillan on 29th April 2013 10:00:05
109 Squadron detachment in Africa electronic counter-measuresI'm looking for informations about the operations of the Wellingtons in November December 1941. In particular about those of 21 and 22 November. There is an old thread but I can't get to it. This is part of it: 18|6|RE%3A 109 Squadron RAF|Jim Howey (Guest)||02:21:03|07/12/2002| I have a Log Book and detailed diary belonging to a 109 Squadron Pilot from this period. The log entries from Nov 20-25 1941 are all listed as Special Operations Western Desert%22 and all record flights between L.G.104 and L.G.75. This pilot records on Nov 22 that he was attacked by eight Macchi C200 AC Damaged. The aircraft is Z-8944. The following entries all relate to previous posts in this thread. The diary entry for Nov 22 Our squadron got into action day before yesterday. When we arrived at the advanced base yesterday morning the boys who had been up the previous afternoon said it was easy nothing to it. During the day FO Hughes Niagara Falls NY was shot down two other Canucks in the crew second pilot Wolf and rear gunner Lowther. FL Willis was jumped by three fighters wireless op wounded lucky to get away with it. No fighter escort we go up alone and stage around the same area for two hours asking for trouble just a suicide squadron... Nov 23 It was our turn yesterday. As we were flying to our alt we were investigated by 10 Hurricanes about 12 eight Macchi 200 attacked us. Shot the plane up a bit. An explosive bullet hit my steel door just as I was going to go back to the beam guns. Bullets hit the wireless set... stooged around until 12%3A50 when six more were coming for us. Four Hurricanes jumped them just in the nick of time. Ship is U.S. for awhile. I hope it is a long while. Thanks in advance ....Read More.michele-palermo on 15th August 2013 07:09:38

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