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Date of Crash  12 Oct 43 Aircraft Name  Hurricane IIC Serial Number  651
Unit  30 Sqdn Operating Airfield  Ratmalana Country  Ceylon
Aircrew details WO John Albert POLLOCK*(P9780)
Details Missing.. later recovered buried in Colombo Cemetery. Crashed near Puttalam
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National Archives AIR81

Citation AIR81 Casualty File Description Link
AIR81/644Pilot Officer D F Jones: missing presumed dead; Hurricane N2651 crashed in the Dunkirk area, France, 28 May 1940.C14502065
AIR81/3125Pilot Officer K V Wendel: killed; shot down, aerial combat, Gravely, Kent, Hurricane L1651, 504 Squadron, 7 September 1940.C16472272
AIR81/4824Sergeant J M Gladwell: killed; aircraft accident, Mohawk AR651, 46 Maintenance Unit, 8 January 1941.C16688922
AIR81/4957Sergeant H H Foster: injured; Sergeant H D Smiles, Sergeant J R Turner, Sergeant J Rowthorne, Sergeant R F W Turner, Sergeant C M Elelman: uninjured; cause obscure, Wellington T2841, 214 Squadron, 30 January 1941. Note: Related file: 5651C16689055
AIR81/4961Pilot Officer P D Strong: missing now safe; Hurricane P2651, 274 Squadron, 1 February 1941. Note: Related files: 4952, 4956C16689059

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No.3 Group Conversion FlightSteve, I don't know whether this is of any use to you, but my uncle, P/O A.P. Meijer RAFVR, (about whom we have had correspondence previously) was stationed at Waterbeach from 21.12 1942 until 03.03.1943, therefore during the same period as P/O Piper, when 1651 HCU was in existence. However, all official documents have my uncle as being posted simply to "3 Group" as a Technical Officer without any mention of 1651 HCU or 3 Group Conversion Flight. He must have been heavily involved with XV Squadron at Bourn as he is known to have flown half a dozen (!) operational missions with them during that short period. On the last of these he and his crew were killed in action. Best regards, Hans ....Read More.Dutch on 8th April 2008 12:13:17
No.3 Group Conversion FlightAdditionally, and again for what it's worth, I am in currently touch with a XV Squadron veteran who tells me that in March 1943 he was in training at Waterbeach with 1651 Conversion Unit. So this was some considerable time after 3GTF had been disbanded. Thanks to all your contributions to this subject, I am now also bcomming quite interested what the Piper documents may show. Hans ....Read More.Dutch on 10th April 2008 06:55:55
Awards, September 1943 to January 1944On the old board I posted a list of DFC awards for which I had citations that had not been published in the London Gazette. On the present board I have posted lists of awards gazetted 1 January 1943, 2 June 1943 and 14 June 1945 which had no published citations but for which I am able to provide texts. With further help from others, notably Steve Brew, I can now provide texts for some 434 additional awards gazetted between 17 September 1943 to 14 January 1944. These include citations to awards of the AFC (124), AFM (13), BEM (78), CB (1), Commendations (31), George Medal (11 although these were largely reported with citations), MBE (89), Mentions in Despatches (32) and OBEs (31). I do not pretend that these are complete (the Mentions in Despatches are a woefully small sample of many more numerous awards), but an incomplete listing is surely better than none at all. Some awards are listed with a fraction (BEM 1/2) which indicates that the citation was copied from a mutilated document and is missing words. Anyone seeking a citation to any of these may contact me; my e-mail address is available in the "Membes List" profile. ABBS, William Henry, Corporal - BEM - 440101 - 12 (P) AFU - RAFVR ACKERMANN, Eric George, HFL - GM- 440114 - * special duties - RAFVR ADAMS, Hugh, Flight Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - 502 Sqn - Aux AF ALLEN, Colin Ernest Lower, Captain - GM- 440114 - * crash rescue - SAAF ALWARD, Herbert Andrew, PO - MBE- 430917 - 381 Wireless Unit, NAAF - RAFVR AMES, Stanley Charles Michael, Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - * St. Eval - RAFVR ANDREWS, Leslie Charles, Flight Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - 109 Maintenance Unit - RAF April 13, 2008THOMPSON, Joseph Vernon, Warrant Officer - MBE- 440101 - 13 Maintenance Unit - RAF ARGLES, JG, GC - CBE - 440101 - * Coastal Cmd HQ - RAF ARMSTRONG, Ernest, Acting Warrant Officer - MBE- 440101 - 3 Radio School - RAF ATKINS, Hilton James Valentine, FO - Comm- 440101 - 9 (O) AFU - RNZAF AUSTIN, Graham Walker Beech, SL - AFC- 440101 - * MSFU - RAF AYRE, Henry Woolgar, FL - AFC- 440101 - 1 Aircraft Delivery Unit - RAFVR AYRES, Ernest Alfred, FO - AFC- 440101 - 24 Sqn - RAFVR BAKER, George Wilson Wood, Warrant Officer - MBE- 440101 - * Port Ellen, Coastal Cmd - RAF BAKER, Mervyn Garth, FL - AFC- 440101 - 511 Sqn - RAAF BALLAUFF, Tony, FL - AFC- 440101 - 1651 CU - RAFVR BANKS, Claude, Flight Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - 271 Sqn - RAF BARBER, Robert Hugh, SL - AFC- 440101 - * Martlesham Heath - RAF BARBER, Eric, Flight Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - 456 Sqn RAAF - RAAF BARKER, George Charles Raymond, SL - AFC- 440101 - 43 Air School S Africa - RAF BARKER, Clifford Cockcroft, WC, MB, Ch.B. - Comm- 440101 - 45 Group - RAF BARLAS, Richard Douglas, WC - OBE- 440101 - * NW Africa AF - RAFVR BARLING, Frank Wittwe, Sergeant - BEM - 440101 - 4 School of Techl Training - RAFVR BARLOW, Alfred James, Warrant Officer - MBE- 440101 - * Western Desert AHQ - RAFVR BARR, Hugh, Corporal - BEM - 440101 - 40 S ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 13th April 2008 06:05:18
No.3 Group Conversion FlightHad a pleasant afternoon with the wife of former F/Lt Peter Piper DFC yesterday and while there had the privilege to view Peters three Logbooks? Given my previous posts I was keen to clarify the 7 Squadron ORB entry “ Posted to 3 Group Conversion Flight”. It transpires that on conclusion of Peter’s time with No.7 (B) Squadron he was posted on October 15th 1941 to the “Stirling Conversion Flight RAF Waterbeach" . Peter's Log Book entries are specific recording his time with "Stirling Conversion Flight" until January 1942 when the flight become No.1651 C.U. I can therefore only conclude that the original entry was a typo and should have recorded his posting to a “ Stirling Conversion Flight” and not “No.3 Group Conversion Flight”. Another little puzzle solved. ....Read More.Steve Smith on 21st April 2008 08:49:18
53 Squadron May 1937-Feb 1940 E D JoyceThanks for that. Do you know if the book is still in print? Joyce seems to have gone on to command 651 Squadron - 1/8/41 - 4/9/41 231 Squadron - 4/9/41 - 28/10/42 Johnnie ....Read More.johnnie214 on 3rd June 2008 08:19:07
53 Squadron May 1937-Feb 1940 E D JoyceThanks for the link. Think I'll have to invest in a copy. After carrying out a little more research on the log it seems he went on to be one of the founder members of the Air Observation Post Squadrons. His log mentions he joined the Experimental FOP with Bazeley on the 5/2/40, and was with them until 17/10/40 flying from Old Sarum, Arras, Sommesous, and Larkhill. A link here http://www.aaca.org.uk/aop.htm seems to fit in. He seems to have had a month at the Central flying School (18/9/40 - 19/10/40) before re-joining the Observation unit, which he now notes as D Flight at Larkhill, on the 10/10/40, and he remains with them until he moves to 651 Squadron on the 1/8/41. Johnnie ....Read More.johnnie214 on 9th June 2008 08:37:43
Commonwealth War Graves on RhodesScott, From my 'For Your Tomorrow - a record of New Zealanders who had died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services since 1915 (Vol Two: Fates 1942-1998)': Thu 2 Sep 1943 MEDITERRANEAN AIR COMMAND Offensive reconnaissance over the Dodecanese Islands 227 Squadron, RAF (Limassol, Cyprus - 237 Wing[?], 201 Group[?], Middle East[?]) Beaufighter VIC JL522/Z - took off at 1028 with three others and failed to return. While carrying out a strike near Cos, hit the sea and exploded after the port wing struck the mast of a caique. Taken prisoner, only the navigator survived. His pilot was buried on Cos, but later reinterred at Rhodes. Pilot: NZ412789 Flt Lt Walter Young McGREGOR, DFC, RNZAF - Age 26. 468hrs. 45th op. McGregor’s brother, John Dunlop McGregor, died on 29 July 1942 while flying with 1651 Conversion Unit, RAF. And from Amendment section of Vol Three: navigator later reported that his pilot had been killed by flak immediately before the crash. Errol navigator later reported that his pilot had been killed by flak immediately before the crash. ....Read More.Errol Martyn on 17th June 2008 05:59:15


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