|Looking for a bomber aircrew detail||Yes indeed. This crew was involved in a crash returning from Norway, Fortress AN535 on 08.09.41. Of the seven airmen on board they are the only four I was not able to identify.
Phil ....Read More.||Phil Listemann on 5th December 2008 09:43:34|
|Looking for a bomber aircrew detail||The following might be of interest in relation to WOOD and TIMLIN :-
2/3 October,1942 Op: Supply-Dropping
Special Duties Flight
Wellington Ic X9734
F/O E R Ridgeway
P/O F A Wood*
F/Sgt N F T Goldsmith +
Took off LG237 (?) to drop supplies to partisans on Crete. On return the port engine failed, the aircraft lost height and eventually force-landed in the sea. The crew had difficulty pulling the unconscious or dead rear gunner through the escape hatch, and the aircraft sank. The survivors were in their dinghy for 43 hours in bad weather and with few rations before being rescued by MTB 268. F/Sgt Goldsmith, whom the CWGC describe as being of 159 Sqn, is commemorated on the Alamein Memorial.
*AUS407023 Francis Ainslie WOOD RAAF.
See: Royal Air Force Bomber Losses in the Middle East and Mediterranean
Volume 1: 1939-1942
Gunby,David & Pelham Temple.
"RE: B17C AN535 Accident 08/09/41"
Posted by floyd williston (Guest) on 11-May-04 at 09:08 PM
O for Orange crew was:
F/Sgt. F.A."Mick" Wood(Pilot)
Sgt. Robert Wilkin(AG)(killed by attacking Luftwaffe)
age 27 buried in Annan Cemetery)
F/Sgt.Tates(AG/wounded in leg and arm by Luftwaffe gun fire)
They were attacked on the way to Oslo(target was the Admiral Scheer/pocket battleship). The Luftwaffe fighter pilot was Unteroffizer Werner Woite. The Flying Fortress was badly damaged but limped back to base. It crash landed and never flew again.
For some reason Chorley's 1941 volume has no references to AN535 though it does list Romans' and Mathieson's aircraft.
All Floyd's work !
Col. ....Read More.||COL BRUGGY on 5th December 2008 11:22:55|
|90 Squadron Flying Fortress MK1||Hi All:
Here is the list. I realize it's not totally satisfying as it only contains ranks and surnames. Hopefully Colin can recognize some.
AN518 F/O Uprichards
AN519 F/O Tacon
AN520 F/O Fleming
AN521 F/L Bailey
AN522 F/L Ring
AN523 P/O Fitchen
AN524 S/L Gates
AN525 F/L Thomas
AN526 F/O James
AN527 F/L Biddle
AN528 S/L Foulsham
AN529 F/L Clark, RNZAF
AN530 Capt Hunter
AN531 F/L Ross
AN532 F/O Llwellyn
AN533 S/L Winn
AN534 F/L Bulloch
AN535 F/L Barclay
AN536 Capt White
AN537 P/O Crook
This was not the delivery sequence - I have the dates if anyone is interested. I have more details on Gates and I believe Ross was a staff pilot at Dorval.
The listing came from research done by Peter Berry at TNA.
Robert ....Read More.||robstitt on 17th February 2010 12:07:48|
|90 Squadron Flying Fortress MK1||Here they are - all were overnight flights and took between nine and eleven hours:
AN531 F/L Ross 13-Apr-41 14-Apr-41 Gander-Ayr
AN534 F/L Bulloch 13-Apr-41 14-Apr-41 Gander-Ayr
AN529 F/L Clark, RNZAF 15-Apr-41 16-Apr-41 Gander-Ayr
AN521 F/L Bailey 19-Apr-41 20-Apr-41 Gander-Ayr
AN527 F/L Biddle 7-May-41 8-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN537 P/O Crook 11-May-41 11-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN520 F/O Fleming 14-May-41 15-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN522 F/L Ring 14-May-41 15-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN533 S/L Winn 14-May-41 15-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN523 P/O Fitchen 15-May-41 16-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN519 F/O Tacon 17-May-41 18-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN535 F/L Barclay 18-May-41 18-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN524 S/L Gates 21-May-41 22-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN526 F/O James 21-May-41 22-May-41 Gander-Squires Gate
AN536 Capt White 22-May-41 23-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN528 S/L Foulsham 23-May-41 24-May-41 Gander-Leuchers
AN525 F/L Thomas 26-May-41 27-May-41 Gander-Ayr
AN530 Capt Hunter 26-May-41 27-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN532 F/O Llewellyn 27-May-41 28-May-41 Gander-Prestwick
AN518 F/O Uprichards 13-Jun-41 14-Jun-41 Gander-Ayr
Of course there is always a little wrinkle... A supplementary sheet with the movement card for AN521 says *it* was the first to be delivered (with AN534). It also says it was flown by one "Major Walshe, USAAF", who I understand became head adviser to 90 Squadron crews, albeit unofficially as the US was still not at war. Have seen other sources quote AN521 as the first across. Not sure if the error is on the movement card second sheet or in the TNA file but the entry on the movement card sheet was almost certainly made later (the USAAC became the USAAF two months later in June 1941) and is perhaps more likely in error. [See posting #24 for confirmation of AN534 and AN531 as first delivered]
I have a copy of S/L Gates' logbook somewhere and will look up which unit he was with prior to delivering AN534.
Robert ....Read More.||robstitt on 17th February 2010 08:12:10|
|90 Squadron Flying Fortress MK1||Wonder if anyone can help with first names of pilots and copilots for the Fortress I deliveries, full list as follows ('ranks' are as quoted in the Gander Watch Log):
AN534 F/L Terence M Bullock, F/O Ian C Patterson
AN531 F/L Donald G Ross, S/P Sherwood
AN529 F/L Clark, P/O Maudsley
AN521 F/L Bailey, F/O Baudaux
AN527 F/L Biddle, Sgt Wood
AN537 P/O Crook, F/O Graham
AN533 S/L Winn, F/P Penderson
AN522 F/L Ring, F/O Gerald Wooll
AN520 F/L Womersley, F/O Robert Fleming
AN523 P/O Fitchen, P/O Summers
AN519 F/O Tacon, F/O Edser
AN535 F/L Barclay, F/O Coles
AN526 F/O James, F/O Long
AN524 S/L Richard T Gates, F/O Rust
AN536 Capt White, F/O Sandford
AN528 S/L Foulsham, F/O Jeremian
AN530 Capt Hunter, F/O Furoy
AN525 F/L Thomas, Sgt Kitson
AN532 F/O Llewellyn, S/L Cummings
AN518 F/O Uprichards, F/O Richards
Thanks in advance:
Robert ....Read More.||robstitt on 23rd October 2013 04:56:47|
|Early RAF B-17 Operations Questions and at least 1 anwer||All
I have been asked to Identify a few individuals involved with early B-17 Operations in the RAF
1) USAAC Liaison Officer Capt then Major 'Mike' Walsh with 90 Sqn in 1941. He is Major "Walshe" in the 90 Sqn ORB
He has also been quoted as "Major [I]James[/I] "Mike" Walsh" in at least one published source
It is actually
Major Birrell “Mike” Walsh #018109 Born Dakota 7 June 1907. Died Feb 10, 1945
2) I have been trying to identify a 90 Sqn pilot P/O J M Taylor in the Summer/Autumn 1941 who subsequently was posted to 220 Sqn Detachment in Egypt around Feb 1942 and was then made a F/O Acting
I think this is highly likely to be
James Morell TAYLOR 102971 ex 968177 Born Belfast 1921
Note: He is listed incorrectly on some AFL as James Maxell Taylor
He was P/O 27. 6.41 and F/O 27 June 1942 so the dates 'Match' - But would like confirmation if possible
3) 90 Sqn Commander S/Ldr McLaren joined 90 Sqn from 13 OTU Bicester as a Flight Commander 23-5-1941
Can anyone please confirm that he is actually
Archibald Duncan. MCLAREN #41440, Died 1951 D.F.C. and MID
He was awarded DFC June 6th 1941 as Acting Flight Lieutenant with 101 Sqn?
He may have later commanded the 220 Squadron Detachment in Egypt. Can anyone help?
Or suggest who S/Ldr McLaren is?
4) Finally can anyone suggest full names/service numbers for the captains on the Fortress I delivery flights from Gander May to mid-June 1941?
Note: I think these would ALL be highly experience Bomber/Coastal Pilots (note Ranks) - Even the P/O would be commissioned Sergeant Pilots with years of experience
AN527 F/Lt Biddle [B]NOT [/B]Eric Arthur BIDDLE #21190 --> See Later
AN537 P/O Crook -> Possibly 44550 C. N. . PO 9. 8.40 -> 580015 Cyril Norman CROOK ( 44550).
AN533 S/Ldr Winn Raymond Ivor Burgess WINN #29224
AN522 F/Lt Ring -> 39031 Spencer Leonard RING, D.F.C. ( 39031). FL 3 9.40
AN520 F/Lt Womersley -> 37439 WomersIey.A.L. FL 21. 5.40 ? Albert Leslie WOMERSLEY
AN523 P/O Fitchen -> ? Probably 44866 Fitchew, E. E. PO 16. 10.40 -- 562095 Ernest Edwin FITCHEW ( 44866).
AN535 F/Lt Barclay
AN526 F/O James
AN528 S/Ldr Foulsham -> 37347 FL 7.5.40 James FOULSHAM ( 37347).
AN525 S/Ldr Thomas
AN532 F/O Llewellyn
AN518 F/O Uprichard -- 43125 Uprichard, W. J FO 1. 4.41 -> William Jervase UPRICHARD D.F.C.- > 563272 William Jervase UPRICHARD ( 43125
- No. 51 Squadron. April 1941
Paul ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 3rd March 2017 05:35:46|
|Early RAF B-17 Operations Questions and at least 1 anwer||Thoughts on AN535 F/Lt Barclay -> P/O James Charles BARCLAY #90046
From AFL Feb 1939
D. FO (rafo) 15.2.31 — David Barclay# 28108 ("A")
D.P. .. FL 16.6.37 <-- NOT HIM David Pringle Barclay #33078 KIA 28th April 1941 as Sqn/Ldr
I. H. . FO (m) . <-- NOT HIM Medical Branch Ian Hamilton Barclay #23369
J. C. . PO (AAF) 13. 5.38 501 -> P/O James Charles BARCLAY #90046 502 GP Sqn P/O 11 May 1938
F/lT 23.11.40 F/O 24.8.39 S/L 1.12.41
P. H. L. PO 29.11.38 334a -> P/O Peter Harold Lovat Barclay #40500 51 Bomber Sqn Feb 1939 P/O 17 Sept 1938
R A C FL 1.10.36 856a NOT HIM Ronald Alan Campbell Barclay #33017 GDB Studying Langauge in Japan S/L 1.8.39
-- Rank to High
W E B FL(AAF) 18.11.38 576 NOT HIM William Edmund Brian Barclay, M.C AAF 90428 GDB F/Lt Balloon Branch S1qn Ldr (Balloon Branch 1.4.37)
So ONLY 3 I think it could be is David Barclay# 28108 ("A") James Charles BARCLAY #90046 or Peter Harold Lovat Barclay
I think it is P/O James Charles Barclay #90046 who was with 502 GP Sqn in 1939 and was F/Lt by August 1938 and Sqn Ldr in late 1941
So Unit Type and Rank Match (General Reconnaissance and F/Lt)
Barclay J C 1913 — 1941 Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960 New York, United States
502 Sqn based in Northern Ireland and on BMD there
U/1914/59/1007/30/448 James Barclay 24th October 1914 Male Laverty Belfast(pre-1973 Q4)
100% James Charles Barclay
James Charles Barclay Immigration 1941 New York, New York, United States Male 28 1913 Tasmania Bodegraven
[url]https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95NF-G4S?mode=g&i=107&cc=1923888[/url] ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 10th March 2017 04:46:30|
|Loss of Fortress 1 of 90 Squadron 8 September 1941||Ken
From an article by Paul Bingley, Flypast Magazine, May 2016, page 21:
[I]On the second of these raids, August 8, 1941, AN533 flown by Sqn Ldr Mathieson failed to return; fate unknown. Fg Off Dave Romans, piloting AN525 was attacked at 25,000ft by two Bf 109s. His Fortress burst into flames and crashed in the Norwegian mountains, killing all on board.
[/I][I]Sgt Tim Wood’s AN535 also came under attack. He jettisoned his bombs and climbed to 34,000ft before oxygen failure incapacitated two of his gunners. Forced to descend to 24,000ft, he was attacked by a lone Bf 109 which killed Sgt Wilkins. Sgt Woods nursed AN535 back to Kinloss where it crash-landed. [/I]
The Fortresses had flown from Kinloss, not Polebrook.
Simon ....Read More.||wwrsimon on 11th March 2018 12:49:57|
|Loss of Fortress 1 of 90 Squadron 8 September 1941||Simon - thank you so much.
Looking at aircrewremembered again I see that the man on AN533 was R Wiilis not R Wilkin as I had thought.
I did find one ref to a detachment at Kinloss but couldn't confirm it anywhere.
So my man was on AN535 and all the other bits fall into place. Brilliant - well nearly "August 8, 1941" ????
Ken ....Read More.||kenmorrison on 11th March 2018 01:58:29|