|Whitley Crash on 6th March 1941||Russ
I have a note of Whitley K7229 of 10 BGS which DIG at Locharbriggs Dumfries on this day.
No idea of the casualties.
DaveW ....Read More.||davew on 7th February 2009 10:05:49|
|Whitley Crash on 6th March 1941||According to the 10 BGS ORB there were 3 fatalities.
March 5th 1941, “Accident to Whitley K7229 in bad visibility and storm in vicinity of aerodrome. Aircraft caught fire on impact with the result that 2 members of the crew, including the pilot, received fatal injuries. Remaining members of crew escaped with minor injuries. The fatalities were both Polish Sgt Pilots, Sgt Mateuszuk and Sgt Friedel.” ....Read More.||alclark on 7th February 2009 10:57:16|
|Whitley Crash on 6th March 1941||Thanks Lads,
First class, thats exactly what I wanted to know. I only wonder why this crash doesn't seem to be documented anywhere and googling Whitley K7229 only brings up the fact that it was with 97 Squadron.
Has the exact crash location been found?
Russ ....Read More.||RussG on 7th February 2009 11:16:43|
|AiB AVIA Class Reports||The TNA index for AVIA 5 has a number of errors in the transcription of serial numbers that prevent easy searches.
The following is very much a work in progress for AVIA5/19, the first wartime file, to provide an index of:
Aircraft Serial Number, Aircraft Type, Date of Incident, W reference
2199 Blenheim IV W914
AM266 Catalina II ??/01/1941 W958a
AR651 Mohawk IV 08/01/1941 W947
AR658 Mohawk IV 02/01/1941 W945
AR664 Mohawk IV 01/02/1941 W958
AR666 Mohawk IV 06/08/1940 W853
G-ADPF Tiger Moth W822
G-ADVH Monospar W748a
G-AESO Tiger Moth W747
K4927 Hart Trainer 08/12/1940 W934
K6011 Swordfish 29/11/1940 W928
K6248 Anson I 21/03/1941 W989
K6272 Anson I 21/06/1940 W795
K6296 Anson I 01/04/1941 W997
K6718 Spitfire P W949
K7019 Harrow II 21/10/1938 W621
K7114 Blenheim I 09/03/1941 W984
K7156 Blenheim I 05/07/1940 W808
K7190 Whitley I 02/05/1939 W654
K7229 Whitley I 05/03/1941 W983
K7260 Whitley I 18/12/1939 W718
K7435 Audax I 11/10/1938 W619
K7594 Battle I 11/12/1937 W581
K7732 Wellesley I 29/09/1938 W617
K7933 Gladiator I 16/06/1938 W604
K7950 Gladiator I 19/11/1939 W709
K8503 Shark II 20/02/1941 W969a
K8733 Anson I 21/02/1939 W639
K8996 Whitley III 18/10/1939 W693
K9001 Whitley III 19/09/1939 W684
K9002 Whitley III 21/07/1939 W669
K9223 Battle I 01/10/1940 W886
K9419 Battle I ??/03/1939 W641
K9838 Spitfire I 16/03/1939 W643
K9965 Spitfire I 08/09/1939 W679
K9977 Spitfire I 30/12/1939 W719
L1100 Blenheim I 03/01/1941 W946
L1153 Blenheim I 18/07/1938 W607
L1160 Blenheim I 07/11/1938 W623
L1164 Blenheim I 03/09/1939 W677
L1232 Blenheim I 05/06/1940 W784
L1358 Blenheim I 10/07/1940 W814
L1549 Hurricane I 20/07/1938 W607
L1577 Hurricane I 01/02/1941 W959
L1629 Hurricane I 02/02/1939 W635
L1717 Hurricane I 27/11/1940 W926
L1791 Hurricane I 25/07/1940 W827
L1849 Hurricane I 07/07/1940 W810
L1870 Hurricane I 29/07/1940 W827
L1936 Hurricane I 04/07/1940 W797
L1955 Hurricane I 29/07/1940 W832
L1989 Hurricane I ??/07/1940 W827
L2162 Sunderland I 20/09/1938 W616
L2944 Skua II 27/07/1940 W829
L2946 Skua II 11/01/1940 W724
L3036 Skua II 14/11/1939 W708
L4054 Hampden I 07/04/1940 W749
L4136 Hampden I 20/04/1939 W649
L4161 Hampden I 05/09/1939 W678
L4243 Wellington I 15/05/1939 W656
L4261 Wellington I 01/03/1941 W979
L4290 Wellington I 21/07/1939 W670
L4395 Mentor 21/03/1940 W745
L4547 Oxford I 06/11/1939 W703
L4571 Oxford I 18/09/1939 W683
L4580 Oxford I 13/09/1938 W615
L4702 Lysander I 28/04/1939 W653
L4762 Lysander II 28/04/1939 W652
L4853 Blenheim IV 06/08/1940 W838
L5356 Battle I 29/10/1940 W900
L5947 Magister I ??/07/1940 W807
L5948 Magister I 10/05/1938 W602
L6016 Hereford I 09/05/1940 W765
L6160 Botha I 02/05/1940 W775
L6205 Botha I ??/08/1940 W850
L6612 Blenheim I 19/12/1940 W941
L6679 Blenheim I 16/11/1940 W912
L6970 Defiant I 11/06/1940 W791
L7004 Defiant I 07/06/1940 W787
L7278 Manchester I 21/03/1941 W988
L7596 DH.86 28/07/1939 W672
L8060 Magister I 16/08/1938 W614
L8136 Magister I 11/11/1938 W624
L8331 Magister I 15/04/1940 W754
L8369 Blenheim I 25 ....Read More.||Ross_McNeill on 7th November 2011 08:36:22|
|Whitley Crash on 6th March 1941||Resurrecting an old thread but I wonder if this accident took place on 5 or 6 March 1941. The initial query date showed the 6 March, the ORB quote the 5th.
Several Google searches returned a list of aircraft crash files where K7229 is listedon the 5th (http://www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?11853-AiB-AVIA-Class-Reports), while all Polish graves lists in UK available on the Net show the death date of both Polish airmen as the 6th.
A possibility compatible with the ORB content can be a crash in the evening of the 5th with both Polish airmen being fatally injured and dying of their wounds the next day (or at least after midnight).
Can someone confirm this ? ....Read More.||Laurent Rizzotti on 6th March 2012 11:27:00|
|Whitley Crash on 6th March 1941||Laurent/Ross,
This may help answer your questions. It is a transcript of a letter/diary I have belonging to S/Ldr. Jasper George Nowell who was in the crash.....
'I have at last sat down to address myself to the task of replying adequately to your letter of 8th August 1987. It must seem to you that I have been an unconsiable time in replying, but as I have said, I wished to reply adequately to your very kind letter.
This letter totally unexpected as it was, came to me really as a sort of shock, ringing all sorts of bells from those days-so long ago. But, of course, the memories therefore as those of yesterday. Let me therefore pour out my reactions as they occur.
Firstly I am interested and honoured that you are dealing with this subject , and offer such items as I can. I am shattered that there were the large number of accidents that you mention in that comparatively small area compared with say E. Anglia but I do believe that there were more losses of personnel of the RAF through accidents than through air operations before about 1942.
May I start by suggesting some corrections? I had always viewed the date of the accident to a/cr. K7229 (Whitley) as being 6.3.41. Also my service number as an airman was 916236. I remember the names of the other trainee L.A.C.s which you mention , but not of course their numbers. Sgt. Mateuszuk I had not met until that day, but I have seen his name on the RAF memorial at Runnymede. I was not aware of Sgt. Friedel, but had memories of an air-firing instructor whose name and nationality I did not know, but who was I think an officer and killed in the crash.
The sortie which we had flown was our last air-firing exercise and was our last training flight. I had always thought that it was a Friday because we had been preparing to go on end-of-course-leave. We were the last detail to take off and as you say it had been snowing. We were returning to RAF Dumfries, and had I think been lost. We certainly flew over Dumfries town at about 200! I had been busying myself in front of the rear turret picking up empty .303 shell-cases to prevent them from jamming the control wires. The other trainees were lying further forward, over the bomb bay, wrapped in canvas engine covers.
We arrived at the airfield, joined the circuit and made an approach. However we were apparently not lined-up correctly and began to go round again at what I thought was about 200ft. I felt the aircraft stall and knowing that we must soon hit the ground, held on to the strength-through-lightness holes in the fuselage. I felt a shock and saw bright lights. When I woke up some seconds later I was with the other trainees over the bomb-bay with flames roaring above my head. I was able to crawl out of the fuselage door which was still working although the fuselage had broken into three open-ended parts. When outside the aircraft, I saw the engines burning many yards away and the occupant (Watson?) emerging from the rear turret in the tai ....Read More.||RussG on 6th March 2012 02:34:04|