|400710 - Unaccounted airmen - 10-7-1940||Hi Again Henk
Watson,Williams,Dent and Hannon are in Chorley Vol 7 as being killed when Anson I, N5019 of 15 OTU became lost and flew into high ground in Wales,3 mls S of Rhayder in Radnorshire
I've looked at Google Maps and I think that it should be RHAYADER(atypo in Chorley)
Dick ....Read More.||Dick on 14th January 2008 08:31:39|
|400710 - Unaccounted airmen - 10-7-1940||Thanks Dick for this excellent info. Especially the 1 AAS Blenheim with F/O Lincoln. If you ever find the names of the Army passengers please let me know.
I've all 9 volumes BCL of Chorley but missed N5019 completely. Age ??
Henk. ....Read More.||Henk Welting on 14th January 2008 10:16:03|
|400710 - Unaccounted airmen - 10-7-1940||I didn't forget to add N5019 into my files. I quoted from the Air Britain Aeromilitaria "Crashes in UK" and on this list N5019 was omitted. I probably forgot to delete the names from my "unaccounted" list. I should have found their names if I had checked my files on their svcnrs.
Henk. ....Read More.||Henk Welting on 14th January 2008 10:33:24|
|Anson fates 1940||Hello Martin,
I looked on Geoff's search engine for the 10th July 1940 and these names for RAF came up.
LAC Dale 616618
Sgt(obs) Dent 755832
P/o. Goldsmith-Jones 41282
Wop/AG Hannan 629054
F/o Lincoln 70400
A/c Ward 906836
P/o watson 79577
A/c Wilkinson 626304
Sgt Wop/AG Williams 646080
I could not get 17 OTU to work.
perhaps you can match some names to the aircraft.
Dent,Hannon,Watson and Williams were crew in Anson N5019 of 15 OTU lost this date along with Sgt. A C Smith who was injured (ref: BCL vol 7 OTU's 1940/47).
This would in effect leave us with five for at least one more anson crew .
Alex ....Read More.||Alex Smart on 14th August 2010 11:06:07|
|"Escapes by Parachute" Jan 11 1940||Crew were from a 148 Sqn Anson N5019
Full detail of crew are:
Flt/Lt Thomas William Piper - Pilot - landed aircraft at Hullavington #37913 (later Air Marshal with KBE, C.B.,. C.B.E., A.F.C.)
P/O William Donald Allies #41978 Second Pilot - 4th Bale out
Sgt Walter Ernest Boteler #581167- 3rd Bale out
Sgt Charles Kenneth Hayden #513240- 2nd Bale out
LAC Leslie JohnTaylor #533216 - 1st Bale out
Harwell 1th January 1940. Anson N5019 during a night flight, cut out both engines whilst pilots were changing over. Captain (Flt/Lt Thomas William Piper resumed control. At 2,000 feet he gave order 'Abandon Aircraft'. The crew P/O W D Allies, 514240 Sgt Hayden, C.K. 581167 Sgt Boteler, W.B. 533216 LAC Taylor, L.J. executed the order calmly and with precision landed near Axminster. Flt Lt/Piper turned of the petrol and when turning off switches, the engines picked up again. Turning on petrol and checking switches, he flew aircraft to Hullavington returning next day to base.
The Appendices to ORB have a fascinating 3 page article written by P/O Allies detailing the full story.
Thanks to Peter Allies (P/O Allies son) who provided me to the clue to the Sqn concerned when he sent me a scan of his fathers Service Record for the period. He was on roll of RAF Harwell as Supernumerary for Operational Training ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 22nd August 2013 01:46:49|
|400710 - Unaccounted airmen - 10-7-1940||Henk passed away last year unfortunatly, but the basics of what happened are stated on the previous page, post #9 I think.
For a small record of the crash you can contact the RAF Museum in Hendon and request the Air Ministry Form 1180 for the loss. Email address and contacts are at this link.
Also, run a google search for the aircraft - Anson N5019, there are some details online.
This google books result also:
[url]http://books.google.ie/books?id=TnZP29EI0RIC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=anson+n5019&source=bl&ots=5CIELtq02u&sig=Lri8fBYl09L4ARbFnQczR56c9tk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Sr1fUsjyPMnh4APNyYDQCA&ved=0CEEQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=anson%20n5019&f=false[/url] ....Read More.||dennis_burke on 17th October 2013 06:35:37|
|Anson 148 Sqn K5024 loss 18 Jan 1940||Ross
Firstly thanks for the offer, and sorry for not getting back sooner as I had to help with an incident Sunday/Monday all sorted now..
Anyway K5024/N5024 Issue from Air 14-47
Dept Z A Harrogate Yorks
30th April 1940
Emergency Parachute Jumps
"I am directed to refer to A.M.O.A. 155/1940
and to say valuable data has been collected
since the introduction in July 1939 of the
questionnaire at para 2 of the above AMO which
will materially help towards the detailed
analysis of reports
covering a period of twelve months which is to be made.
"The following reports of emergency parachute
jumps known to have been made
have not yet been received"
8.8.39 38 Sqn Wellington L4235
9.8.39 102 Sqn Whitley K8950
[B]18.1.40 148 Sqn Anson "K" 5024[/B]
I think last incident is confusion of Anson N5019 of same Sqn on 11.1.40 in the same
general vicinity of the crash of N5024 Dalwood, near Axminster, Devon.
Pilot Captain (Flt/Lt Thomas William Piper resumed control)
and other 4 crew bailed out
And my mystery 1940 bailouts are as follows
Probably between January 15th to Feb 5th 1940
Sgt Herring and AC2 Drake (probably same incident)
2) Probably between 5th Feb 1940 and 14th Feb 1940
Pupil Pilot G Hobbs
3) Probably between 22 Feb 1940 and 26 March 1940
P/O Charles Francis Ambrose and P/O James Reginald Bryan "Jim" Meaker (Probably same incident)
I can't be more specific as the List I have only gives years and I [I]assume [/I]the names are in consecutive order (most are) so I am bracketing them via known "other" incidents
So for example Ambrose and Meaker are between Ft/Lt Ian Richard "Wedge" Gleed on Feb 18th 1940 and P/O William Hubert Rigby "Nits" Whitty on March 26th 1940
Paul ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 29th March 2016 05:48:07|