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Gladiator II N5642 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image Database] RAFCommands.com

 Gladiator II N5642



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AIR81/1291Pilot Officer R A Winter injured as a result of an aircraft accident on board Gladiator N5642, Samphrey Island, Shetland Islands, 30 January 1940.C14502796

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411231 - Unaccounted airmen - 31-12-1941What were the places of death registration for: A - Died on active service: AC2 James H. NICHOLSON - 1146465. B - Not found Flight archives: LAC Frederick COLES - 632552, and AC1 Clifford WRIGHT - 110525. Proposed aircraft loss for this day: Gladiator II - N5642 - FF Shetlands - crashed in forced landing Samphrey Island, Shetlands. Regards and thanks for your help (ON ALL MY QUESTIONS RE UNACCOUNTED AIRWOMEN AND AIRMEN FOR THE YEAR 1941). Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 3rd March 2009 07:40:59
Gladiator N5642 Shetlands Fighter Flight FateOn a few websites I have seen this was reported as "crashed by Sgt Arthur Edward Makins on 30 January 1940" See [url]http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/14697.php[/url] Says 'forced landing at Samphrey' However, some other sources say "1941" On Hogmanay 1941 a Gloster Gladiator N5642 of 152 squadron flying over Yell Sound, had engine failure, made a forced landing in a bog on Samphrey and overturned. The pilot, Sgt Makin had done this once before and was unhurt [url]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bXFwKl5gVqwC&pg=SA11-PA19&lpg=SA11-PA19&dq=Gladiator++N5642&source=bl&ots=VzbSxmyaId&sig=sYkGN7az1OYCzQtv3xk4Fclcshw&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Gladiator%20%20N5642&f=false[/url] I think the "Hogmanay 1941" is a mis-understanding of SOC date on 31-12-41 The 'once before' is the accident "He was also involved in an accident in N5643 on 20 March 1940. No other details other than the Gladiator was repaired. " on [url]http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/14697.php[/url] Halkan's Bi-plane website has Shetland Fighter Flight [url]http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/gladiator_raf_ff.htm[/url] N5642 From 152 Sq. Engine cut in circuit and it run into bog and overturned at Samphrey Island, Shetlands; the pilot was Sgt Makin. The aircraft was apparently not repaired. 31/12/41 SOC. N5643 From 152 Sq. 20/03/40 Bounced on landing and overshot and overturned at Sumburgh; the pilot was Sgt Makin. Destroyed beyond repair N5643 is the 'once before'. However..... [url]http://www.crashsiteorkney.com/page32.htm[/url] has "Another Gladiator of SFF crash landed on Samphrey Island after engine trouble and overturned also in a boggy area, this is reputed to be N5642 which was S.o.C on 30/12/1941 piloted by P/O Winter. More info is needed on this aircraft and it is hoped ARGOS members up in Shetland will be able to locate the site if anything still remains. " This suggests N5642 was force landed by P/O Richard Arthur Winter #73015 - I also have Winter on 1940-01-30 from another source) I wonder as the information on N5642 is very similar fate, that in fact either she had one incident (on 30 January 1940 and this was in fact P/O Richard Arthur Winter or Machin's incident being "remembered" twice or did N5642 have two separate incidents? One with Winter one with Machin ? Can anyone clear up this mess? ....Read More.paulmcmillan on 28th January 2016 10:22:47
Gladiator N5642 Shetlands Fighter Flight FateI can part some of the fog from the F1180s This is the search on Fighter Flight 1939 to June 1940 30-01-1940 Fighter Flight, Shetlands, Gladiator II, N5642 P/O Winter R A RAFVR Num. 73015 Casualty Code I [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/January_1940/30_1_1940/01301386.JPG[/URL] [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/January_1940/30_1_1940/01301387.JPG[/URL] 20-03-1940 Fighter Flight, Shetlands, Gladiator II, N5643 Sgt Makius A E Num. 565992 Casualty Code [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/March_1940/20_3_1940/01301407.JPG[/URL] [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/March_1940/20_3_1940/01301408.JPG[/URL] 21-06-1940 Fighter Flight, Shetlands, Gladiator II, N5716 P/O Francis N I C Num. 40817 Casualty Code [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/June_1940/21_6_1940/01301436.JPG[/URL] [URL]http://www.rafaircraftaccidents.com/F1180/1940/June_1940/21_6_1940/01301437.JPG[/URL] Although the printing of Sgt Makius name and service number is clear on the F1180 I have a note that it needs more work with AIR 78 to resolve. Edit - LG resolves to Makins - I'll update the database to correct [url]http://www.rafcommands.com/archive/05815.php[/url] To complete the picture requires a dump of the No.152 Squadron F1180s for overlap info 10-10-1939 No.152 Squadron, Hart T, K6482 Sgt Mycroft T Num. 519466 Casualty Code K 10-10-1939 No.152 Squadron, Hart T, K6482 Sgt Mycroft T Num. 519466 Casualty Code K 24-11-1939 No.152 Squadron, Gladiator II, N5640 P/O Doughty N A R RAFVR Num. 72477 Casualty Code I 24-11-1939 No.152 Squadron, Gladiator II, N5640 P/O Doughty N A R RAFVR Num. 72477 Casualty Code I 22-12-1939 No.152 Squadron, Gladiator II, N5701 P/O Posener F H Num. 41735 Casualty Code I 22-12-1939 No.152 Squadron, Gladiator II, N5701 P/O Posener F H Num. 41735 Casualty Code I 16-01-1940 No.152 Squadron, Spitfire I, K9893 Sgt Barker J K Num. 566251 Casualty Code 16-01-1940 No.152 Squadron, Spitfire I, K9885 P/O Beaumont W RAFVR Num. 76308 Casualty Code ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 28th January 2016 01:55:46


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