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 Stirling I N6009


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Date of Crash  21 Apr 41 Aircraft Name  Stirling I Serial Number  N6009
Unit  7 Sqdn Operating Airfield   Country  UK
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Don Mason DSO with bar, DFChello, About the inclusion of a loss in BCL volume 2, there's no mention of a ditched Stirling of No. 7 Squadron. On the night 9/10th April 1941, No. 7 Squadron despatched 3 Stirlings to Berlin, and lost N6011 shot down by a night fighter near Lingen, Germany. The Stirling Story by Michael J.F. Bowyer mentions another Stirling being N6009 captained by Flying Officer J.F. SACHS, "which encountered propeller trouble which forced him to turn back at the dutch coast then jettison his load. No mention of a ditching." I keep on quoting the book about the third Stirling : George BLACKLOCKwas making his last flight in N6005, one of whose engines persisted in overheating on the climb forcing spells of level flying to allow it to cool off." Then over Lingen the aircraft was coned by searchlights and attacked by a nightfighter. He evaded the attack and diverted to Emden. He landed back OK. No mention at all of a ditched Stirling. The ORB for No. 7 Squadron for 1941 is indeed in AIR 27/98 (99 for 1942 and 1943). The ORB for No. 57 Squadron for 1941 is in AIR 27/537, appendices in AIR 27/541. Tom Docherty also published a book, "No. 7 Bomber Squadron in World War Two" but I don't have it. Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 2nd December 2008 11:17:00
Don Mason DSO with bar, DFCOnly 3 Stirlings set out for Berlin on 9/10 April 1941. One (N6009, pilot F/O J. Sach) turned back early with propeller trouble at the Dutch coast. A second aircraft, (N6005, pilot F/O G. Blacklock) was damaged by a night-fighter on its way to the target and bombed Emden instead and the third, (N6011, pilot F/Lt V. Pike) was shot down over Lingen before reaching the target. All three aircraft were from 7 Squadron who were the only ones flying Stirlings operationally at that time. The mystery deepens! Cheers all, Bill. ....Read More.BillG on 2nd December 2008 12:05:20
R A Cruikshank - 7 Squadron Stirling crew help needed.Hello Ian, From Bill Chorley's 'Amendments and Additions': 1941/049 7/N6012 MG-D Sgt K F Wilkinson should read K F Wilson http://rafinfo.org.uk/BCWW2L/ See also: BCL2/44. Cruickshank (note spelling), crash-landed Stirling I N6009 at Stambourne on 20/21-4-1941. No crew injuries. For Barrett, read Barratt. Barratt died from his injuries on 4-5-1941. Col. ....Read More.COL BRUGGY on 12th December 2009 04:55:08
Form 765c AM1180 and Stirling CrashesHi All This is my first thread here so if I'm in the wrong place, etc please shout gently! I'm researching the crashes of Stirling Bombers N6009 (Stambourne Q-Site) and N6012 (Dry Drayton) in April/May of 1941. They were flown by the same crew, the second crash killing all on board. Essentially I am conducting a sort of mini crash investigation. I have much information about the crashes, but can I take this opportunity to say that I have three photos of the wreckage at Dry Drayton but would love to find more or the person who has the originals or indeed any photos of either event! Sorry to go off-topic, that request was on the basis of getting as wide an audience as possible, my formal questions are as follows. In tracking down 'official' information about the crashes I have found the following evidence trail for aircraft that crashed in the UK but not as part of combat: ORBs (two sorts, one related to plane and the other to the squadron) NRO AM1180 from RAF Hendon 765c from the AHB AVIA 5 (National Records Office) Q1 - are there any more useful sources? Q2 - Has anyone got a copy of the 765c form? Not even a filled in one - a blank copy will do. I ask this because the ahb won't give you a copy of the form but just ask "what do you want to know"? While I appreciate that they have to withhold personal data under the Data Protection Act, this makes extracting information a little bizarre since I don't know what is on the form in the first place! If I knew what the form had 'spaces' for then I could be a little more exacting. (I wonder why they don't just photocopy the form, tippex out the personal stuff and publish the rest - simples!) I am frustrated because the tiniest piece of information can shine a powerful light. As an example the lovely people at Hendon sent me a copy of the front of the AM1180 form, great, but in tiny letters at the bottom was 'PTO'. This drove me nuts as now there was possible useful info on the back that I didn't have. On further enquiry I found that the reverse 'just' contains the pilots flying details - This revealed that a) he only had 12 flying hours on Stirlings and b) 17 hours night flying. This is extremely important as it suggests a contributing factor for the crashes. On the 765c form there were two sentences that helped immeasurably in deciding how the plane came to be in the position it was. Q3 - The reference to the 765c form was hardly noticeable on the collection of codes and odd words on the AM1180 form, but again these innocent letters held the key to more important information. So does anyone know what all the various sections are for on the form - many are obvious but the following are unclear: Top Left - Just written in as AO Signal Number - Lots of codes AIB - ? Something under AIB I can't read (obscured by someone writing 'No') A:B:C - A? Cause - L2? It would be good to get a 'guide' written as I can't be the first person to wonder what they all mean. I could post the actual AM1180 if it wou ....Read More.jamesinwnewcastle on 26th February 2011 11:37:15
Trying to identify a pilotHello, Here is a completed list for "Sergeants". ERIC -Killed 1941 - Sgt. In one or two cases Eric is a middle name. UK ASHWOOD. 21 Sqn - 04/06/41 - Blenheim IV - V6323. ASHWORTH. 220 Sqn - 04/08/41 - Hudson V - AM625. BARRATT. Ag 7 Sqn - 21-22/04/41 - Stirling I - N6009. BLAKE, ROp - 13/06/41 - 25 OTU - Wellington Ic - R1708. BLOMELEY. 101 Sqn - 03/04/41 - Blenheim IV - N3552 [B]BOWMAN[/B]. ( Pilot ) 26 CFlt. - 24/12/41 - Stirling I - N6066 . BROWN. WopAg U/T - 26/01/41 - 2 OTU - Blenheim I - Z5746. [B]BRUCE[/B]. (Pilot ) 213 Sqn - Hurricane I - P3522. BRUNDISH. 44 Sqn - 17-18/04/41 - Hampden I - X2999. CASH. Obs. 82 Sqn - 20/08/41 - Blenheim IV - V6445 - "UX-E". [B]CASTLE[/B]. 22 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 22/01/41 - Beaufort I - N1151. CHAMBERLAIN. WopAg - 12/09/41 - 14 OTU - Hampden I - P1301. DEVEREUX. WopAg - 28/03/41 - 3 OTU - Anson I - L9150. [B]DIAPER[/B]. 504 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 17/05/41 Shot dead. [B]DYER[/B]. 44 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 02-03/09/41 - Hampden I - AE152. [B]EASTON[/B]. ( Pilot ) 52 OTU - 30/04/41 - Hurricane I - P3864 . EGGLETON. 608 Sqn - 09/09/41 - 1 COTU - Hudson - N7337. ELKINGTON. WopAg 05/11/41 - 608 Sqn - Hudson V - AM642. ELMES. 110 Sqn - 14/08/41 - Blenheim IV - V6515. [B]FLEMING[/B]. ( Pilot ) 258 Sqn - Hurricane II - Z2589 [B]FREESE[/B]. ( Pilot ) 74 Sqn - Spitfire IIa - P7561 [B]FRISBY[/B]. WopAg - [B]Married[/B] - 09/09/41 - Blenheim I - L8693. GRECO. 57 Sqn - 07/11/41 - Wellington Ic - Z8903. HARDMAN. WopAg - 16/10/41 - 25 OTU - Anson I - W2626. HARVEY. 235 Sqn - 23/03/41 - Blenheim IV - L9404. HEALY - Wellington II - W5596 - OADU. [B]HODGES[/B]. 58 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 27-28/12/41 - Whitley V - Z6841. HORTON. WopAg 144 Sqn - 07-08/09/41 - Hampden I - AE304. [B]HOSKIN[/B]. ( Pilot ) 10 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - Whitley V - Z9188 - "ZA-V" - 12/12/41. HUGHES. 51 Sqn - 11-12/02/41 - Whitley V - P5013. IRELAND. 218 Sqn - 10-11/10/41 - Wellington Ic - X9677 - "HA-V". JACKSON. 201 Sqn - 03/12/41 - Sunderland II - W3988 - "ZM-P". JOHNS. 206 Sqn - 13/06/41 - Hudson IV - AE612 - "VO-X". KEETLEY. 115 Sqn - 12/02/41 - Wellington Ic - R3238 - "KO-H". LEE. WopAg 18 Sqn - 22/03/41 - Blenheim IV - T2038 - "WV-M". LLOYD. WopAg 18 Sqn - 25/05/41 - Blenheim IV - R3666. MADDISON. 114 Sqn - 24/05/41 - Blenheim IV - L9267. MAIN - Wellington Ic - Z1049 - 15 OTU - 03/11/41 [B]MASON[/B]. ( Pilot ) 232 Sqn - Hurricane I - P3608 MINSHALL - Wellington II W5596 - OADU. PAINTER. 75(RNZAF) Sqn - 30/11 - 01/12/41 - Wellington Ic - Z1099. [B]PARKER[/B]. (Pilot) 144 Sqn - 20/09/41 - Hampden I - X3030 . PAUL. WopAg 103 Sqn - 20-21/09/41 - Wellington Ic - R1539. PHILLIPS. Obs - 03/03/41 - 13 OTU - Blenheim IV - R3751. [B]POLKINGHORNE[/B]. 10 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 16-17/01/41 - Whitley V - T4220. [B]ROBINSON[/B]. ( Pilot ) - 16 OTU - Hampden I - P5318. ROBERTSON 40 Sqn - 16-17/01/41 - Wellington Ic - T2912. [B]RODGER[/B]. WopAg - 7 Sqn - [B]Married[/B] - 29-30/09/41 - Stirling I - W7441 - "MG-Y". [B]ROUTLEDGE[/B]. 9 Sqn - [B]Married[/B ....Read More.Alex Smart on 15th June 2019 08:08:15


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