|Mid-Air Collision, 7 SFTS, 1941||Steve, do you mean 8 FTS?
I have no crew names but collisions listed by ABS for 8 FTS Montrose are;
3/6/41 T8630 and N7488
13/7/41 T8337 and Hurris N2661 and V6566
6/9/41 AZ264 and AZ377
17/12/41 N7931 and Anson R9585
In addition I have 19/4/41 T8688 as being in a collision, but I do not have the other a/c serial.
DaveW ....Read More.||davew on 18th November 2007 01:43:42|
|Mid-Air Collision, 7 SFTS, 1941||Steve
The reason I query is because (RAF Flying Training & Support Units)7 FTS was not at Montrose did not have any Masters, and in any case was disbanded to form 31 SFTS in Canada early in 1941. Reformed at Peterborough ex 7 PAFU in 1944.
8 SFTS was at Montrose with 108 Masters as complement in September 1940
Of the possibilities that I listed, the ones cited as being Montrose or Montrose area are T8630, N7488 and N7554.
DaveW ....Read More.||davew on 19th November 2007 07:23:00|
|410603 - Unaccounted airmen - 3-6-1941||What were the places of death registration for:
P/O Sir Christopher A. DE BATHE - 83937;
F/O (Pilot) Arthur H.C.A. RAWSON - 17170;
AC2 (Wop/Ag u/t) Alfred J. SHARP - 1262316, and
LAC (Pilot u/t) Wilfred TANSLEY - 1379543.
Proposed aircraft losses for this day (any suggestions welcome):
Henley I - L3284 - 1 AACU - crashed on approach ½ mile N of Towyn.
Master I - N7488 - 8 FTS - collided with Master T8630 near Montrose.
Master I - T8630 - 8 FTS - collided with Master N7488 near Montrose.
Oxford I - R6114 - 3 FTS - crashed on overshoot 1 mile N of Bibury LG.
Tiger Moth II - T7174 - 24 EFTS - crashed on overshoot ½ mile SW of Barton.
Wellington I.C - L7899 - 1 (C)OTU - crashed on take-off Silloth.
Regards and thanks for your help.
Henk. ....Read More.||Henk Welting on 7th October 2008 04:53:10|
|410603 - Unaccounted airmen - 3-6-1941||This came from the 9 AOS, Penrhos, ORB,
June 3rd 1941, Henley aircraft belonging to C Flight 1 AACU crashed at Towyn. F/O Rawson + 1 airman killed.
The 8 FTS ORB had the following for the mid-air collision.
June 3rd 1941, No.1379543 LAC Tansley W. killed in accident to Master T8630. Aircraft crashed at high speed in flames, after mid air collision with Master N7488, flown by LAC Presland E.P. Investigation held by W/Cdr Simpson on 7th June 1941. ....Read More.||alclark on 7th October 2008 10:40:10|
|410603 - Unaccounted airmen - 3-6-1941||Alan
Well that eliminates 3/6/41 T8630 and N7488 from Steve Brew's original query, so suggests either
6/9/41 AZ264 and AZ377
or 19/4/41 T8688 as being in a collision, but I do not have the other a/c serial.
As the Master to Master collision involving 1256932 Sgt. Plt. Bruce Paul Pyfo Dunstan, RAFVR. ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 7th October 2008 12:27:13|
|Mid-Air Collision, 7 SFTS, 1941||I thought following Paul McMillian's note on Henk's 3-6-1941 thread I would bring up the original with some ORB extracts, though one of them answer the original question, so back to square 1.
April 19th 1941, T8688 (F/O R.H. Dibnah) and N7554 (780719 Sgt Ziejka) collided in mid
air. Both force landed successfully.
June 3rd 1941, No.1379543 LAC Tansley W. killed in accident to Master T8630. Aircraft
crashed at high speed in flames, after mid air collision with Master N7488, flown by LAC
Presland E.P. Investigation held by W/Cdr Simpson on 7th June 1941.
July 13th 1941, 780969 LAC Adach, H. & 780569 LAC Janczyk, A. killed in collision
between Hurricanes N2261 and V6566 3 miles south of Johnshaven. Investigation held by
Wing Commander E.W. Simpson on 15th July 1941.
September 6th 1941, F/Lt Stewart, 39832 (Instructor), 1005760 LAC (Cadet) Housley, W.
and P/O Becko, P0239 (pupils) killed in aircraft accident whilst carrying out formation
practice near Lauriston. Master AZ377 piloted by P/O Becko collided with Master AZ264
piloted by F/Lt Stewart with LAC Housley as second pilot. Accident investigated by W/Cdr
Simpson on 13th September 1941.
December 17th 1941, F/O Buchanan, Instructor, with Sgt Hughes W.W. pupil of No.1 A.F.
Course, killed in flying accident in Master N7931, after being involved in an air collision with
an Anson aircraft. 7 Occupants of the Anson were also killed. Both machines crashed near
Stracathro. W/Cdr Hodder and S/Ldr Brook investigated the accident on 20/12/41. ....Read More.||alclark on 7th October 2008 02:23:09|