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Magister I  P2470 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image Database]

 Magister I  P2470

Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash 03 May 41 05 May 41 Aircraft Name Magister I Serial Number P2470
Unit 15 EFTS Operating Airfield Country
Aircrew details
Source Henk Welting's Database Henk Welting's Database

National Archives AIR81

Citation AIR81 Casualty File Description Link
AIR81/6254Leading Aircraftman W Rotter (Polish): killed; Leading Aircraftman A Mierzwa (Polish): injured; mid air collision between Magister P2470 and Magister L6918, 15 Elementary Flying Training School, 5 May 1941.C16755552

Casualities in the CWGC Register for Magister I P2470

Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetary/Memorial & Loc Ref
KapralWieslaw ROTTER (P/780999) Magister I P2470  AIR81/6254 1941-05-0515 EFTS United KingdomCarlisle (Dalston Road) Cemete

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410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for: Sgt Leslie B. BURROWS - 510346; Cpl John CLEGG - 855242 - 8 BC, 921 (Balloon) sqn (Fazakerley); Sgt (Pilot) Robert H. ENGLISH - 754475 - 3 Sqn (Debden, Essex) or was he 3 (C)OTU ?; F/O John S. OSBORNE - 43301; AC2 William J. PULLMAN - 1350809, and AC1 Alfred L. SMITH - 1258230 - 257 Sqn (Coltishall, Norfolk). Proposed aircraft losses for this day: Blenheim I - L1279 - 3 (C)OTU - abandoned ½ mile N of South Molton, Devon. Magister I - L6918 - 15 EFTS - collided with Magister P2470 and crashed Newbie, Dumfries. Master I - T8780 - 58 OTU - dived into ground 3 miles N of Falkirk, Stirlingshire (already as casualty on this aircraft: P/O V.C. ARNOLD - RCAF J/4253). Oxford I - T1028 - 1 (P)FTS - crashed on take-off Hucknall. Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 13th September 2008 09:44:15
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941Hi Henk L1279 is recorded in Warner with only injuries to P/O Ulman. Burrows,31, is registered at Carlisle, Clegg, 30, is registered at Liverpool N(right for a unit based at Fazakerly), English,23, is registered at Saffron Walden,Essex(which is right for a death around Debden), Osborne,41, is registered at Fakenham, Norfolk, Pullman,18 is registered at Chippenham,Wiltshire, Smith,26, is registered at N Walsham, Norfolk The date given in Air Britain for P2470 is 15/5/41 with no mention of a collision. I don't have the L Series Regards Dick ....Read More.Dick on 13th September 2008 10:03:48
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941Thanks Dick for your quick reply. Could Burrows (reg. Carlisle) have been on the Magister L6918 (crashed Newbie, Dumfries) ? P2470 in P-File may be incorrect and 15-5-1940 pres. the SOC date. In L-File is clearly listed collision with P2470 and crashed Newbie, Dumfries 5-5-1941; NFD. Regards, Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 13th September 2008 10:26:30
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941According to the 15 EFTS ORB Burrows wasn't in Magister L6918. May 5th 1941, “P2470 and L6912 LAC Mierzwa and LAC Rotter. Mid-air collision at Newbie, Annan. Former seriously injured, latter killed.” Here is the entry from the No.58 OTU ORB: May 5th 1941, “Master T8780, Pilot 741448 Sgt Dunmore and pupil pilot Pilot Officer V.C. Arnold, crashed. Sgt Dunmore admitted to Larbert Military Hospital dangerously injured and P/O Arnold was killed.” ....Read More.alclark on 13th September 2008 11:25:57
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941Thanks Al. "KU CZCI Poleglych Lotnikow 1939-1945" has Antoni MIERZWA - PAF 781189 on L691"8" and Wieslaw ROTTER - PAF 780999 on P2470. Regards, Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 14th September 2008 05:42:10

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