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 Whirlwind I  P7058


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Date of Crash 25 Apr 43 Aircraft Name Whirlwind I Serial Number P7058
Unit 137 Sqdn Operating Airfield Country
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Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetery/Memorial & Loc Ref
Flying OfficerJames Reginald REBBETOY (J/15741) Pilot Whirlwind I P7058  Forum Post 1943-04-25137 Sqdn AIR27 BelgiumAdegem Canadian War Cemetery

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Whirlwind OpsHi Hugh, Maybe you will be interested by the following information concerning the last mission of P/O Rebbetoy : At 10.35 h on April 25th 1943, 6 Whirlwind of the 137 Squadron took off from Manston for a Rhubard mission above Belgium. P/O Rebbetoy was F/Lt Bryan n°2 and near Tielt they sighted a train. They were ready to attack when F/Lt Bryan realized it was a Flak train. He tried to warn his n°2 not attacking this target but to no avail. P/O Rebbetoy dived and was immediately hit. The aircraft went down and inverted crashed in an inoccupied house. The pilot was instantly killed. It happened at Wijnendale near the railway track. The aircraft was a Whirlwind I (SF-G/P7058). Two German soldiers were wounded too. P/O Rebbetoy claimed the first Whirlwind victory of the Squadron (shared with Sgt H. O'Neil) too. Rgds. Régis ....Read More.Decobeck on 1st December 2007 08:43:14
Whirlwind OpsThis is great stuff; many thanks. To help those helping me, I can say that I can definitely identify the following as being on Whirlwinds, viz: No.137 Squadron DESHANE, P/O C.W. killed in flying accident, 9 March 1942, aircraft P7036 WRIGHT, P/O R.E.D., killed in flying accident, 4 May 1942 (serial ?) BRENNAN, FS J.R., killed on operations 27 May 1942 (serial ?) MERCER, P/O C.E.. killed on operations, 19 february 1943, aircraft P7114 REBBETOY, F/O J.R., killed on operations, 25 April 1943, aircraft P7058 In addition, the following men were decorated for services in the squadron; said services were probably executed, in whole or in part, on Whirlwinds: McCLURE, F/O John Edward - DFC, 4 July 1943 DEHOUX, F/O Laurier - DFC, 30 July 1943 BRUNET, P/O Arthur Gaston - DFC, 12 August 1943 ASHTON, P/O Joel Hilton - DFC, 22 October 1943 No.263 Squadron GILL, F/O D.R., killed 7 November 1942, aircraft P7043 McPHAIL, WO D.B., killed 7 December 1942, serial ? BREARLEY, F/O E., killed 16 April 1943, aircraft P6095 In addition, the following officer was decorated for Whirwind services in No.263 Squadron: COYNE, F/O James Patrick - DFC, 1 June 1943 Incidentally, if the ORBs give service numbers, the RCAF types stand out by virtue of having J- or R-service numbers. Now I confess that I can probably get a lot of information about those who were killed from their service files, although curiously these files yield very little (and often none) details about operational experiences (other than how they were killed). Thus, dates of first sortiies and ORB extracts respecting operations, close calls, or mistakes will not be in the personal documents while they might be in the ORBs. I should explain what I have in mind. I write routinely (and for free) for the "Observair" (newsletter, Ottawa Chapter, Canadian Aviation Historical Society) and wish to do a few short pieces on RCAF personnel whose service careers were entwined with RAF rather than RCAF units (a group known among RCAF history buffs as "The Lost Legion"). Further down the road (perhaps two years hence) a few of these pieces may be expanded into articles in "Legion Magazine" (Royal Canadian Legion publication). By way of illustrating what I have extracted from Rebbetoy's service file, I submit two pieces of information which may interest visitors to this board: EXTRACT, LETTER FROM COMMANDING OFFICER, NO.137 SQUADRON TO REBBETOY'S FATHER: "I should like to say that your son joined my squadron approximately a year and a half ago as a Sergeant, and from the very moment of joining the Squadron had shown himself to be a very fine pilot, exceptionally keen and most efficient, and six months after his joining the Squadron I was very happy to be able to recommend him for a commission, so that he could become one of my officers. "Since that time he has done extremely well and was in the front line in the Squadron for being recommended for the DFC, and but for h ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 1st December 2007 05:20:28
Whirlwind Ops[QUOTE=Decobeck;1068]Hi Hugh, Maybe you will be interested by the following information concerning the last mission of P/O Rebbetoy : At 10.35 h on April 25th 1943, 6 Whirlwind of the 137 Squadron took off from Manston for a Rhubard mission above Belgium. P/O Rebbetoy was F/Lt Bryan n°2 and near Tielt they sighted a train. They were ready to attack when F/Lt Bryan realized it was a Flak train. He tried to warn his n°2 not attacking this target but to no avail. P/O Rebbetoy dived and was immediately hit. The aircraft went down and inverted crashed in an inoccupied house. The pilot was instantly killed. It happened at Wijnendale near the railway track. The aircraft was a Whirlwind I (SF-G/P7058). Two German soldiers were wounded too. P/O Rebbetoy claimed the first Whirlwind victory of the Squadron (shared with Sgt H. O'Neil) too. Rgds. Régis[/QUOTE] Hi Régis, Thanks for the information, but one correction rebbetoy did not get 137Sq first whirlwind victory, it was the second . order of combats as follows :- 15.05.42 - F/Sgt G.V.Brennan P7111 & P/O Brunet P7055 (SF-W) - Ju.88 (Dam) N.Sea 27.05.42 - F/Sgt G.V.Brennan P7122 & P/O LaGette P7046 - Ju.88 N.Sea (actually a RAF Blenheim) 20.06.42 - P/O C.Mercer P6972 & Sgt Ashton P7012 ( SF-V)- Do.217 (Dam) N.Sea 06.07.42 - P/O Bartlett P7111 & Sgt Roberts P7037 - Ju.88 (Dam) N.Sea 25.07.42 - P/O J.E.McClure P7104 & W/O R.L.Smith P7012 (SF-V ) - Ju.88 3(F)./122 N.Sea 29.07.42 - F/Sgt J.R.Rebbetoy P7058 (SF-G) & Sgt L.O'Neill P7005 (SF-H) - Ju.88D-1 N.Sea Cheers Jerry ....Read More.brewerjerry on 2nd December 2007 12:10:42
Whirlwind Ops[QUOTE=northeagle;1187]Re 137 Squadron: Has anyone got any information on the crash that killed it's C/O, John Sample, October 28, 1941? Also looking for his a/c number and letter.[/QUOTE] Robert The accident happened on the afternoon of the 28th. Sample, Maurice Peskett and Jack Luing took off to perform practice flying. Luing performed one practice attack on the other pair, but as he turned in for a second run he saw Sample’s aircraft spinning down out of control with part of the tailplane falling away. Sample bailed out, but at low altitude and was killed, his aircraft (P7053) crashing nearby. The other two pilots landed safely, but examination of Peskett’s aircraft (P7058) suggested that the starboard propeller had hit the tail of Sample’s aircraft. Both sets of undercarriage doors and the central bulge of the Fowler flap also showed signs of contact. P7058 was carefully flown, undercarriage down, to Filton for repair. HTH Niall ....Read More.NiallC on 6th December 2007 03:44:37
Whirlwind Ops[QUOTE=HughAHalliday;1101]This is great stuff; many thanks. To help those helping me, I can say that I can definitely identify the following as being on Whirlwinds, viz: No.137 Squadron DESHANE, P/O C.W. killed in flying accident, 9 March 1942, aircraft P7036 WRIGHT, P/O R.E.D., killed in flying accident, 4 May 1942 (serial ?) BRENNAN, FS J.R., killed on operations 27 May 1942 (serial ?) MERCER, P/O C.E.. killed on operations, 19 february 1943, aircraft P7114 REBBETOY, F/O J.R., killed on operations, 25 April 1943, aircraft P7058 No.263 Squadron GILL, F/O D.R., killed 7 November 1942, aircraft P7043 McPHAIL, WO D.B., killed 7 December 1942, serial ? BREARLEY, F/O E., killed 16 April 1943, aircraft P6095 [/QUOTE] Hugh Wright was killed in P7103 Brennan's aircraft was P7112 Mercer was, I believe, flying P7119 on the night he was killed, with Freeman, the other fatality, in P7114. Don McPhaill was flying P6987 when he was lost to flak on Roadstead 45. HTH Niall ....Read More.NiallC on 6th December 2007 04:59:01
137 Squadron Whirlwind CodesHello Everyone I'm hoping that some of you out there might be able to help me with my research into the following Whirlwinds. P7058 SF-G Can anyone confirm the squadron code for this machine? P7063 SF-? P7114 SF-? Does anyone know the squadron codes for these machines please? Did any of them have personalised markings of any kind? I would also be very keen to obtain copies of any photos of these machines. They were all on strength with 137 Sqn in early 1943. Courtesy of Bingham's book I know their fates but would like to know their id's. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you all in advance. Paul ....Read More.pfP7063 on 8th March 2008 09:17:29
NCO service number of two CanadiansHi Phil I have the following on these two Canadians for you. Unfortunately not their 'R' numbers though. Joel Hilton Ashton Nationality: Canadian. Rank: Sgt, F/S - 15th March 1942. Squadron: 137. In: 21st December 1941 from OTU. Out: 30th November 1943 Posted. First Op: 21st December 1941. Awards: DFC - 23rd October 1943. Award effective 22nd October 1943 as per the London Gazette dated 5th November 1943 and AFRO 2507/43 dated 3rd December 1943. Hours: 90.23. Sorties: 77. Nickname: Bug Eyes. Remarks: Born in Toronto in 1920, home at Barrie, Ontario or Virden, Manitoba. Enlisted at Winnipeg 23rd October 1940 and trained at 1 ITS (graduated 17th March 1941), 7 EFTS (graduated 4th May 1941) and 1 SFTS (graduated 30th July 1941). Returned to Canada after the war. Award presented 24th June 1945. The citation read, ‘This Officer has completed a very large number of sorties including successful attacks on airfields, shipping and rail communications. He has displayed great skill and determination, setting an example worthy of high praise. These qualities were well illustrated in a recent attack on an installation at Hansweert. Pilot Officer Ashton attacked his objective from such a low level that his aircraft was struck in several places by the flying debris. James Reginald 'Jimmy' Rebbetoy Nationality: Canadian. Rank: Sgt, F/S - 1st March 1942, P/O - 1st October 1942, F/O - 4th April 1943. Squadron: 137. In: 1st October 1941 from 56 OTU. Out: 25th April 1943 KIA. First Op: 1st February 1942. Hours: 100.40. Sorties: 87. Remarks: Shot down and killed whilst attacking a train near Tielt, Belgium in P7058. Aged 26 he was the son of Michael J. & Coral U. Rebbetoy of Cayuga, Ontario, Canada and is buried in Maldegem Canadian War Cemetery, Maldegem, Oost-Vlaanderen, Belgium, Plot 1.E.2. I tried using their names/numbers to search the LG but was only able to find Ashton's DFC citation. Paul ....Read More.pfP7063 on 1st April 2008 05:42:32
Whirlwind vs Fw190Good evening Gents. I'm hoping that one or more of you may be able to help in answering the following questions I have re Eddie Musgrave's combat against a Fw190A-4 of 8./JG 26 on January 28th 1943. Before asking my questions, here is what I have so far: [B]28th January 1943[/B] Low clouds restricted flying. The Third Gruppe were scrambled from Wevelgem shortly after 1100 as several enemy aircraft were reported headed toward the base. The base was indeed attacked – by a single No. 137 Squadron Whirlwind, piloted by an Australian, B. L. Musgrave. Only one pair of Fw 190s was in a possible position to intercept. Uffz. Heinrich Wälter had to attack from beneath but overshot, and passed in front of the Whirlwind. Reacting by instinct, Musgrave fired a quick burst from the Whirlwind’s four 20-mm nose cannon; the Focke-Wulf was hit and dived straight into the ground. The Australian pilot made good his escape in the clouds, but had no idea that he had hit the German aircraft, and filed no claim. The outcome of his combat, and the identification of his victim, only became known as a result of recent research. Wälter was flying Fw 190A-4, WNr. 5622 ‘Black 2’ He crashed between Dadizeale and Beselaere at about 11:08 am. (I believe that Uffz. Heinrich Wälter was buried at Bourdon (France) 32/8/135) [B]Source: The JG 26 War Diary, Volume Two 1943 – 1945 By Don Caldwell Page 21[/B] [B]14th August 1941[/B] Whilst climbing to try and intercept the aircraft of Circus 73, Ogfr. Heinrich Wälter and the other pilots of III/JG 26 were intercepted by the Spitfires of 315 Squadron (306 Squadron) escorting the Blenheims Wälter was flying Bf 109F-4 WNr. 7126 was hit and injured and had to bail out. [B]Source: The JG 26 War Diary, Volume One 1939 – 1942 By Don Caldwell Pages 165-167[/B] It also appears possible (from a source on the web that I forgot to copy the url and can longer find!) that Wälter flew against the Swordfish that tried to attack the Sharnhorst and Gneisenau on 12th February 1942. His claim was not confirmed. [B]137 Squadron’s ORB recorded the following:[/B] [B]28th January 1943[/B] P7005, F/O J.L. DeHoux 1035 - 1125, on a Rhubarb, found a goods train pulling out of a station. 6 miles south of Bergues. He gave the engine a 4 second burst of cannon, observing strikes, and then dropped 2 x 250lb bombs on it from 50’. On looking back, he saw a big cloud of steam coming from the engine. P7058, F/O E.L. Musgrave 1035 - 1140, on a similar trip, dropped 2 x 250lb bombs from 100’ on a goods train 1 mile south west of Tielt, and then attacked twice with cannon, leaving the engine enveloped in steam. Whilst pulling away from the second attack, 2 Fw.190’s were sighted about 800 yards away. 1 fired 2 bursts at F/O Musgrave, and then pulled into cloud. F/O Musgrave got in a short burst from 300 yards, using 2 rings deflection at the enemy aircraft before getting into cloud himself and returning to Base. According to Ed ....Read More.pfP7063 on 20th January 2011 04:59:01
Claim of German Ju 88 on 29/7-42Soren They were indeed Whirlwinds – on the last of 5 convoy escort patrols flown by pairs of 137 Squadron aircraft that day. James Rebbetoy (RCAF), Whirlwind P7058 Flt Sgt Hugh O’Neill, Whirlwind P7005 Combat report: 2 Whirlwinds 137 Sqn Red Section, Red 1 Rebbetoy, Red 2 O’Neill, took off to patrol convoy “Ribald” at 2020 and landed at Matlaske 2115. At 2047 hrs 15 miles NE of Happisburgh on vector 115 degrees, Red 1 at 1500 ft and Red 2 at 200 ft, Red 2 sighted an 88 coming across in front 200 yards away from port to starboard. Red 2 informed Red 1 that 88 was to starboard and red 1 immediately banked to starboard and immediately recognised 88 which was climbing about 300 yards away. EA then turned to port followed by red 1 who gave a 1 second burst allowing 1.5 rings deflection from 250 yards. No results observed, red 1 broke away to starboard and Red 2 who had climbed to 3000 feet now saw EA turning towards him 250 yards away and 50 feet above. He gave a 2 second burst allowing 1 ring deflection and saw strikes on nose of e/a and shells passing underneath. He broke away and e/a dived to port down to down to 2000 feet turned to starboard and started to climb again very steeply followed by our section. Red 1 gave a 1 second burst from 100 yards range from 30 degrees starboard astern allowing ¾-1 ring deflection seeing red flashes on starboard motor and fuselage and e/a turned to port. Red 1 broke away directly underneath aircraft and red 2 came in the on the port side and gave two short bursts from 250 yards astern 30 degrees to port, height 4000 ft, observing no results. Red 1 saw tracer just skimming underneath plane, Ju 88 continued to climb steeply and Red 1 gave a 2 second burst from 100 yards dead astern closing to 50 yards., finishing his ammo and seeing strikes underneath aircraft on starboard engine EA then dived very steeply to port white smoke pouring from the starboard engine and levelled off at sea level. Red 2 finished his ammo from 100 ft above and continued firing cine gun. Red 2 on port and Red 1 on starboard side followed e/a for 15 miles and saw Ju 88 jettison bombs. Red 1 told controller to send out another section and continued to transmit fixes. Flames now appeared under starboard wing of Ju 88 which hit the sea bursting into flames. Film was taken of this. A yellow dinghy was seen upside down but no sign of survivors. Section now returned to base, red 1 on one engine RPMs being down. Heavy return fire experienced from top gun and once from lower. JU88 shot down 25 miles ENE of Happisburgh. Red 2 had one hit on nose of his a/c. Claim one 88 destroyed shared. Weather: heavy mist, 6/10 cloud, base 8000 to 10,000 ft. Visibility 1-2 miles. Cine guns exposed by both pilots. TOA 2047 HTH Niall ....Read More.NiallC on 19th December 2015 09:19:23


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