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 Spitfire IIa  P7691


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Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash 28 Aug 41 Aircraft Name Spitfire IIa Serial Number P7691
Unit 152 Sqdn Operating Airfield Country
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Source Henk Welting's Database

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Citation Aircraft AIR81 Casualty File Description Link
AIR81/5273Spitfire IIa P7691Pilot Officer J E I Grey: injured; enemy action, aerial combat over Rye Harbour, Spitfire P7691, 610 Squadron, 26 February 1941. Note: Related file 5633C16689371
AIR81/8669Spitfire IIa P7691Sergeant A Savidge: prisoner of war; shot down at Rotterdam, Holland, aerial combat, Spitfire P7691, 152 Squadron, 28 August 1941.C16924511

Prisoners of War for Spitfire IIa P7691

RankName, NumberDetailsDate CapturedUnitPOW NoCamp
SgtArthur SAVIDGE (1172598) Spitfire IIa P7691
1941-08-28152 SqdnStalag 357 Kopernikus


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Sgt Denison 130 SquadronHello, Here is the list of flights of Sgt Dennison, from No. 130 Squadron ORB, held at TNA, Kew. The form 540 states that the first Long Range Spitfires arrived on 17th July 1941. From the form 541s : 17 July Spitfire P7663 1210-1245 20 July Spitfire P8270 735-840 Spitfire P8255 1335-1415 25 July Spitfire P7691 experience on LR 1130-1200 Spitfire P7691 formation 1620-1730 26 July Spitfire P7691 Sector Recce 1145-1225 Spitfire P7691 Target for F/L Strickland 1530-1625 and S/L DONOVAN 28 July Spitfire P7663 air combat with F/L Strickland 1545-1645 and S/L DONOVAN 29 July Spitfire P8270 Formation 925-1020 Spitfire P8072 cloud flying 1255-1355 30 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 735-845 Spitfire P8270 air firing 1225-1340 Spitfire P7885 formation 1430-1530 Spitfire P8204 cloud 1630-1720 31 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 1400-1430 Spitfire P7885 formation cloud 1745-1840 2 August Spitfire P8255 aerobatics 1130-1205 Spitfire P7885 attacks 1405-1435 Spitfire P8204 formation 1545-1625 3 August Spitfire P7663 formation 805-920 Spitfire P8204 air combat 1345-1440 Spitfire P8204 formation 1705-1755 5 August Spitfire P7885section formation 750-855 Spitfire P8270 climb to 30 000' 1610-1715 6 August Spitfire P7904 air combat 1135-1240 7 August Spitfire P7904 Target. To Scillies and return 740-900 11 August Spitfire P7756 convoy patrol 1415-1550 12 August Spitfire P7756 Squadron formation 1530-1650 14 August Spitfire P8072 convoy patrol [with F/L Strickland] 1540-1650 Spitfire P8072 interception [ F/L Strickland crash] 1730-1740 16 August Spitfire P7663 Squadron formation 930-1035 Spitfire P8255 interception 1340-1355 I can add, from the form 540, that he took part in a sweep with Sgt Mace on 18 August 1941, they were forming « black section ». But I don't have the form 541 for that day as I stopped with F/L STRICKLAND's crash. Hope this helps anybody. Joss Sorry for the table, it was looking correct when I pasted it, but when I saw the final result, the tabulation marks were not there anymore. ....Read More.jossleclercq on 22nd February 2008 10:12:43
Sgt Denison 130 SquadronHi Joss: Spitfire P7755 was assigned to 130 Sqn on 26 June 1941. On 22 July was delivered to 411 Sqn. and it was lost seven days later. Spitfire P7756 was delievered to 54 Sqn on 13 March 1941. Best regards Rick Here is the list of flights of Sgt Dennison, from No. 130 Squadron ORB, held at TNA, Kew. The form 540 states that the first Long Range Spitfires arrived on 17th July 1941. From the form 541s : 17 July Spitfire P7663 1210-1245 20 July Spitfire P8270 735-840 Spitfire P8255 1335-1415 25 July Spitfire P7691 experience on LR 1130-1200 Spitfire P7691 formation 1620-1730 26 July Spitfire P7691 Sector Recce 1145-1225 Spitfire P7691 Target for F/L Strickland 1530-1625 and S/L DONOVAN 28 July Spitfire P7663 air combat with F/L Strickland 1545-1645 and S/L DONOVAN 29 July Spitfire P8270 Formation 925-1020 Spitfire P8072 cloud flying 1255-1355 30 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 735-845 Spitfire P8270 air firing 1225-1340 Spitfire P7885 formation 1430-1530 Spitfire P8204 cloud 1630-1720 31 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 1400-1430 Spitfire P7885 formation cloud 1745-1840 2 August Spitfire P8255 aerobatics 1130-1205 Spitfire P7885 attacks 1405-1435 Spitfire P8204 formation 1545-1625 3 August Spitfire P7663 formation 805-920 Spitfire P8204 air combat 1345-1440 Spitfire P8204 formation 1705-1755 5 August Spitfire P7885section formation 750-855 Spitfire P8270 climb to 30 000' 1610-1715 6 August Spitfire P7904 air combat 1135-1240 7 August Spitfire P7904 Target. To Scillies and return 740-900 11 August Spitfire P7756 convoy patrol 1415-1550 12 August Spitfire P7756 Squadron formation 1530-1650 14 August Spitfire P8072 convoy patrol [with F/L Strickland] 1540-1650 Spitfire P8072 interception [ F/L Strickland crash] 1730-1740 16 August Spitfire P7663 Squadron formation 930-1035 Spitfire P8255 interception 1340-1355 I can add, from the form 540, that he took part in a sweep with Sgt Mace on 18 August 1941, they were forming black section . But I don't have the form 541 for that day as I stopped with F/L STRICKLAND's crash. Hope this helps anybody. Joss Sorry for the table, it was looking correct when I pasted it, but when I saw the final result, the tabulation marks were not there anymore.[/QUOTE] ....Read More.RickLezon on 9th March 2008 09:02:39
Sgt Denison 130 Squadron[QUOTE=jossleclercq;4926]Hello, Here is the list of flights of Sgt Dennison, from No. 130 Squadron ORB, held at TNA, Kew. The form 540 states that the first Long Range Spitfires arrived on 17th July 1941. From the form 541s : 17 July Spitfire P7663 1210-1245 20 July Spitfire P8270 735-840 Spitfire P8255 1335-1415 25 July Spitfire P7691 experience on LR 1130-1200 Spitfire P7691 formation 1620-1730 26 July Spitfire P7691 Sector Recce 1145-1225 Spitfire P7691 Target for F/L Strickland 1530-1625 and S/L DONOVAN 28 July Spitfire P7663 air combat with F/L Strickland 1545-1645 and S/L DONOVAN 29 July Spitfire P8270 Formation 925-1020 Spitfire P8072 cloud flying 1255-1355 30 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 735-845 Spitfire P8270 air firing 1225-1340 Spitfire P7885 formation 1430-1530 Spitfire P8204 cloud 1630-1720 31 July Spitfire P8204 aerobatics 1400-1430 Spitfire P7885 formation cloud 1745-1840 2 August Spitfire P8255 aerobatics 1130-1205 Spitfire P7885 attacks 1405-1435 Spitfire P8204 formation 1545-1625 3 August Spitfire P7663 formation 805-920 Spitfire P8204 air combat 1345-1440 Spitfire P8204 formation 1705-1755 5 August Spitfire P7885section formation 750-855 Spitfire P8270 climb to 30 000' 1610-1715 6 August Spitfire P7904 air combat 1135-1240 7 August Spitfire P7904 Target. To Scillies and return 740-900 11 August Spitfire P7756 convoy patrol 1415-1550 12 August Spitfire P7756 Squadron formation 1530-1650 14 August Spitfire P8072 convoy patrol [with F/L Strickland] 1540-1650 Spitfire P8072 interception [ F/L Strickland crash] 1730-1740 16 August Spitfire P7663 Squadron formation 930-1035 Spitfire P8255 interception 1340-1355 I can add, from the form 540, that he took part in a sweep with Sgt Mace on 18 August 1941, they were forming « black section ». But I don't have the form 541 for that day as I stopped with F/L STRICKLAND's crash. Hope this helps anybody. Joss Sorry for the table, it was looking correct when I pasted it, but when I saw the final result, the tabulation marks were not there anymore.[/QUOTE] Hi Joss: Spitfire P7755 was delivered to 130 Sqn. on 26 June 1941. One month later, on 22 July, was delivered to 411 Sqn and lost seven days later. Spitfire P7756 was delivered to 54 Sqn. on 13 March 1941. The aircraft saw action later with 403 Sqn. Best regards Rick ....Read More.RickLezon on 9th March 2008 09:08:50
Crashed Spitfire at Kethel, the NetherlandsDear Hans and others, It's indeed strange that no loss of 130 Squdron can be matched with the photograph. The most obvious candidate would be P7904, however that Spitfire was shot down into the sea about 400 yards to the west of Flakbattery 4./MFLA246 after which the pilot P/O Pickstone was saved out of sea. I'm almost sure it's in fact P7691 of 152 Squadron, lost 28 August 1941 near Rotterdam, pilot Sgt A. Savidge being captured. Spitfire P7691 was on strength with 130 Squadron in August 1941 and most likely just on transfer to 152 Squadron (or borrowed!) and put into action before squadron markings were changed. Although this may seem a bit far fetched, there are some other occassions too where old markings caused wrong tracks and finally dead ends in research. The contents of the Casualty File (AIR81/8669) or Sgt Savidge's Liberation Questionnaire (WO344/278/2) may give the final answer whether he indeed crash landed near Kethel/Rotterdam. Any other thoughts or suggestions are welcomed! Kind regards, Hans Nauta ....Read More.Hans Nauta on 22nd November 2021 04:54:33
Crashed Spitfire at Kethel, the NetherlandsHans, An interesting theory, which is plausible. As a matter of interest I've just taken a look at the relevant ORBs. The 152 Sqn summary records that Sgt Savidge was shot down on 28Aug41. The record of events shows him flying P7691, although it states "up 1515, down 1545", like all the other aircraft on that mission, with no mention of a loss! I note that it is the first appearance of P7691 in that month. Savidge seems to have flown a variety of aircraft during August. Illustrating the pitfalls of ORBs, he is recorded as flying: P7440 P7996 P8433 P8448 (three times) P8488 (serial does not exist) The plot thickens with the 130 Sqn ORB. P7691 is recorded as flying with the squadron on the 22/24/26/27/28/29 August 1941 (but not before the 22nd that month)! I can only assume that the ORB compiler incorrectly "translated" the aircraft's code when he was preparing the document, failing to realize that the aircraft had been transferred out and replaced with another. Andy ....Read More.Andy Marden on 22nd November 2021 07:28:20
Crashed Spitfire at Kethel, the NetherlandsHi Hans, I have some photos of this Spit after its belly landing. On one of the photos the Serial No. is visible, it is the P7691 from 28 August 1941. Send me a email! Kind regards Olaf ....Read More.SpitPRIV on 23rd November 2021 11:42:38


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