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Miles Master  T8780 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image Database]

 Miles Master  T8780

Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash 05 May 41 Aircraft Name Miles Master Serial Number T8780
Unit 58 OTU Operating Airfield Country
Aircrew details
Source Henk Welting's Database

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Citation AIR81 Casualty File Description Link
AIR81/6255Pupil Pilot V C Arnold (RCAF), Sergeant J T Dunmore: injured; aircraft accident, Master T8780, RAF Grangemouth Flight, 5 May 1941.C16755553

Casualities in the CWGC Register for Miles Master T8780

Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetery/Memorial & Loc Ref
Pilot OfficerVictor Charles ARNOLD (J/4253) U/T Pilot Miles Master T8780  Ext Link 1941-05-0520 OTU United KingdomGrangemouth (Grandsable) Cemet
Flight SergeantJack Townley DUNMORE (741448) Miles Master T8780  Forum Post   AIR81/6255 1941-05-1758 OTU United KingdomChislehurst (The Annunciation)

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410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941What caused the death of and/or what were the places of death registration for: Sgt Leslie B. BURROWS - 510346; Cpl John CLEGG - 855242 - 8 BC, 921 (Balloon) sqn (Fazakerley); Sgt (Pilot) Robert H. ENGLISH - 754475 - 3 Sqn (Debden, Essex) or was he 3 (C)OTU ?; F/O John S. OSBORNE - 43301; AC2 William J. PULLMAN - 1350809, and AC1 Alfred L. SMITH - 1258230 - 257 Sqn (Coltishall, Norfolk). Proposed aircraft losses for this day: Blenheim I - L1279 - 3 (C)OTU - abandoned ½ mile N of South Molton, Devon. Magister I - L6918 - 15 EFTS - collided with Magister P2470 and crashed Newbie, Dumfries. Master I - T8780 - 58 OTU - dived into ground 3 miles N of Falkirk, Stirlingshire (already as casualty on this aircraft: P/O V.C. ARNOLD - RCAF J/4253). Oxford I - T1028 - 1 (P)FTS - crashed on take-off Hucknall. Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 13th September 2008 09:44:15
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941Hi Henk, Master T8780 does not fits according to Pupil pilot P/O Arnold was killed when the Master dived into the ground. His instructor, Sgt. Dunnmore, was dangerously injured. P/O. Arnold was 20 years old buried at Grangemouth Cemetery. Pavel ....Read More.CZ_RAF on 13th September 2008 10:07:04
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941According to the 15 EFTS ORB Burrows wasn't in Magister L6918. May 5th 1941, “P2470 and L6912 LAC Mierzwa and LAC Rotter. Mid-air collision at Newbie, Annan. Former seriously injured, latter killed.” Here is the entry from the No.58 OTU ORB: May 5th 1941, “Master T8780, Pilot 741448 Sgt Dunmore and pupil pilot Pilot Officer V.C. Arnold, crashed. Sgt Dunmore admitted to Larbert Military Hospital dangerously injured and P/O Arnold was killed.” ....Read More.alclark on 13th September 2008 11:25:57
410505 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-5-1941Thanks Pavel for info on Master T8780 and P/O ENGLISH. He was killed flying Hurricane P3677. Still hope to find out what caused Sgt (Pilot) Robert Henry ENGLISH's death 5-5-1941. Regards, Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 14th September 2008 05:32:56
420119 - Unaccounted airmen - 19-1-1942Thanks Dave. Yes, same Larbert Hospital as for DUNMORE Master T8780. The aircraft was in my files with ARNOLD killed (source: 'They Shall Grow Not Old') and DUNMORE injured. Thanks as well for link to Dunmore's date of death; was still on my 'unaccounted' list. Regards, Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 26th March 2009 07:02:02
410517 - Unaccounted airmen - 17-5-1941Hi Henk, F/Sgt Dunmore who died from injuries on the 17th was the instructor pilot Sgt Dunmore who was injured in the No.58 OTU Master T8780 crash on 5-5-41. He was taken to Larbert Military Hospital after the crash. The No.58 OTU RoH link given has a couple of errors so needs to be checked before use. Regards Ross ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 31st July 2011 03:54:06
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