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 Hudson III  T9460


Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash 21 Jul 42 Aircraft Name Hudson III Serial Number T9460
Unit 1404 Meteo Flt Operating Airfield Country
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Source Coastal Command and Fleet Air Arm Losses Forum Henk Welting's Database

Casualities in the CWGC Register for Hudson III T9460

Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetery/Memorial & Loc Ref
SergeantDerek John NEWCOMBE (923434) Observer Hudson III T9460  Forum Post 1942-07-211404 Met Flt United KingdomOkehampton (All Saints) Church
SergeantDouglas Ellerington PEART (1377809) Pilot Hudson III T9460  Forum Post 1942-07-211404 Met Flt United KingdomSt. Columb Major Cemetery
SergeantMorris SOLOMON (402679) Hudson III T9460  Forum Post 1942-07-211404 Met Flt United KingdomPlymouth Jewish Cemetery
SergeantEric Leslie WALDRON (401256) Hudson III T9460  Forum Post 1942-07-211404 Met Flt United KingdomSt. Mawgan (Lanherne) Roman Ca

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1404 Met Flight, St EvalHad Sgt Pearls Hudson T9460 been an on a weather mission at the time? The RAF Casualty Communiques are correct in their KIA or KOAS distinctions. The "Killed in Action" listing indicates the type of mission, he was on a 'combat' mission, out to record the weather so no more than a Coastal Command patrol, he was in 'battle' unlike a mission where he might have been testing the engines after an overhaul. The Killed in Action does not refer to the nature of the death or loss, but the nature of the flight. Airmen who crashed in Ireland one the patrol out or on return from missions were killed in action, not KOAS. For example, I would imagine that an Anson trainer from an AFU being shot down by a Luftwaffe Intruder would also be a KOAS, as their mission was at the start a training one. ....Read More.dennis_burke on 30th July 2014 05:28:19
1404 Met Flight, St EvalI'm not sure that's correct Dennis. This comes from 1 February 1943 edition of [I]The Times[/I] and the [I]R[I][/I]oll of Honour: Royal Air Force[/I], explaining the different terms used in the casualty lists: 'The Air Ministry regrets to announce the following casualtieson various dates. Next of kin have been informed. Casualties "in action" are due to flying operations [U][I]against the enemy[/I][/U]; "on active service" includes ground casualties due to enemy action, non-operational flying casualties, fatal accidents, and natural deaths.' In the case of T9460 it was not lost due to enemy action, but was a fatal accident because the pilot apparently did not divert as ordered. Brian ....Read More.Lyffe on 30th July 2014 06:33:47
1404 Met Flight, St EvalMany thanks to all those that replied to my original post. Thanks to you I am on the way to getting even more background on 1404 I've promised Morris Solomon's niece in Canberra that I will put together as much information as possible - and, since yesterday, I have 90% more than before. I would be interested in any further suggestions regarding photographs (there is no photo of Morris Solomon) I have contacted Coastal Command website but no response so far. Are there any photographs in Peter Rackliff's book?. Ross, I am in contact with the Australian Memorial people but your instructions will make it easier for me to access the details, thanks. FYI I refer to various points arising from the replies received. ______________________________________ National Archives : AIR/28738 C623466 probably refers to the Ops Records for St Eval (and not 1404 Met Flight). I probably got that wrong. The relevant entry states: [U]ORDERS FOR 21.7.1942[/U] [U]LOCAL STATION INTELLIGENCE[/U] At 0034 hours Controller ordered all lights on camp to be extinguished in view of approach of hostile plot. Lights were put on again at 0040 hours Hudson a/c C/1404 airborne at 0957 hours on Meteorological Sortie crashed in flames at Kellan Head, near Port Quin at approximately 1456 hours and was burnt out. The crew Sgts. Peart, Newcombe, Solomon and Waldron, all lost their lives. .. and from RAAF FATALITES IN SECOND WORLD WAR AMONG RAAF PERSONNEL SERVING ON ATTACHMENT IN ROYAL AIR FORCE SQUADRONS AND SUPPORT UNITS ..there is a detailed description attached to both Sgts Solomon and Waldron's entries. [I]On 21st July 1942, Hudson T9460 took off from RAF St Eval, Cornwall, on an operational met reece flight. The aircraft crashed at 1450 hours when it hit the cliffs at Kellan JHead, Port Quin, Cornwall and all the crew were killed. The aircraft had been in the air for 4 hours 55 minutes The aircraft had returned from the met sortie in conditions of low cloud with a base of about 150 feet and 1000 feet thick When over the drome the aircraft called on the R/T and was directed to land at Predannack. The aircraft acknowledge this. Instead of flying to Predannack the aircraft flew along the coast, and was seen flying at 50 feet across Watergate Bay in a northerly direction. It appeared that the pilot was following the coast northwards at low altitude instead of climbing above the low cloud and setting course for Predannack. An Inquiry into the accident found that: "Low cloud was the main contributory factor to the accident. Also the Pilot had disregarded instructions to proceed to Predannack, and it was bad airmanship in trying to follow a difficult coastline in bad visibility." Crew: RAF Sgt D.E. Peart, Captain (Pilot) RAF Sgt D.J. Newcombe (Observer) RAAF 402679 Sgt M. Solomon (Wireless Air Gunner) RAAF 401256 Sgt E.L. Waldron (Wireless Air Gunner) [/I]Regards Raymond ....Read More.Raymond Batkin on 31st July 2014 08:57:11
Coastal Command July 1942COASTAL COMMAND July 1942 1/. - Hampden I - 415 Sqn - AT235. 1/. - Hampden I - 415 Sqn - AT239. 3/. - Beaufort I - 217 Sqn - L9893. 3/. - Beaufort I - 217 Sqn - DD993. 3/. - Beaufort I - 22 Sqn - AW240. 4/. - Hudson III - 1404(Met) Flt - V9111. 5/. - Hudson II - 1(C)OTU - T9372. 8/. - Hudson - 1(C) OTU - N7277. 9/10. - Beaufort IIa - 5(C) OTU - DD874. 11/. - Battle I - 1(C) OTU - L5717. 11/. - Hudson I - 1(C) OTU - T9353. 11/. - Beaufighter VIc - 248 Sqn - T5142. 12/. - Mosquito PR.1 - 1 PRU - W4089. 12/. - Blenheim IV - 2(C) OTU - T1810. 12/. - Hampden TB.I - 489 Sqn - AT131. 13/. - Blenheim IV - 404 Sqn - K7120. 15/. - Wellington Ic - 3(C) OTU - W5619 ? 15/. - Hudson IIIa - 48 Sqn - FH378. 15/. - Catalina I - 119 Sqn - AH545. 16/. - Hampden TB.I - 455 Sqn RAAF - P2145 17/. - Beaufort I - 5(C) OTU - N1003. 18/. - Spitfire IV - 1PRU - BP921 19/. - Hampden I - 5(C)OTU - P2100. 20/. - Wellington Ic - 7(C) OTU - DV772. 20/. - Botha - 3 SGR - W5142. 21/. - Blenheim IV - 2(C)OTU - Z5723. 21/. - Beaufighter Ic - 235 Sqn - T4794. 21/. - Beaufighter VIc - 248 Sqn - X8090. 21/. - Hudson V - 608 Sqn - AM791. 21/. - Hudson III - 1404(Met) Flt - T9460. 22/. - Hampden I - 489 Sqn - P1219. 24/. - Hampden I - 5(C) OTU - P5313. 24/. - Beaufort IIa - 86 Sqn - AW308. 24/. - Beaufort IIa - 86 Sqn - AW355. 24/. - Beaufort IIa - 86 Sqn - AW356. 25/. - Beaufort IIa - 86 Sqn - AW274. 26/. - Sunderland I - 230 Sqn - L5806. 26/. - Beaufort I - 5(C)OTU - W6480. 26/. - Mosquito IV - 1401(Met) Flt - DK289. 27/. - Beaufighter VIC - 2(C)OTU - T5160 27/. - Mosquito PR.IV - 1(C) OTU - W4067. 28/. - Beaufort II - 86 Sqn - AW296. 28/. - Hudson V - 206 Sqn - AM805. 28/. - Beaufort I - 217 Sqn - L9820. 30/. - Spitfire PR.IV - 1PRU - AA800. 30/. - Spitfire IV - 1PRU - AB301. 30/. - Whitley VII - 502 Sqn - Z9192. 30/. - Hudson V - 407 Sqn - AM-860. 31/. - Hampden I - 415 Sqn - AD762. 31/. - Sunderland - 10Sqn RAAF - W3994. 31/. - Sunderland III - 201P2145.W4025. 31/. - Hudson III - 500 Sqn - FH375. ....Read More.Alex Smart on 24th August 2018 07:27:42


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