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Gee (T1335)hello, For the Tirpitz raids in April 1942, 6 Halifaxes (including W1047 and W1048) were transferred from No. 102 Squadron (from memory) to No. 35 Squadron, because they had been equiped with Gee on the factory line (or wired for). 6 non-equiped Halifaxes made the other way round. The fact is clearly mentioned in No. 35 Squadron ORB. I seem to remember that other Gee equiped Halifaxes had already found their way to the Squadrons tasked with the attacks on the Tirpitz. I don't have the ORB read at hand (visiting the board during my lunch break), but can have a look tonight. Or perhaps Linzee would have the document ready at hand ? Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 15th September 2008 06:07:46
Gee (T1335)Hello, some info to add to the mix! In Tirpitz the Halifax Raids by Nigel Smith he writes: "W1048 'S-Sugar' was one of six aircraft ferried by RAF pilots from 102 Squadron on that day (9th April 1942), being exchanged for six 35 Sqdn Halifaxes having 'special modifications' on them. These 'special modifications' were the TR 1335 sets, the new, secret GEE navigational aid. Since the operation over Norway would be beyond the range of the GEE stations it had been decided either to remove the sets from these aircraft or exchange the aircraft themselves for others. In this way no unnecessary GEE sets would be in danger of being captured by the enemy if an aircraft came down on land. They could be put to use in the air over Germany instead." In We Act with One Accord by Alan Cooper he writes (relating to the mid February 1942 period for 35 Sqdn): "At this time the first Halifax II's arrived with ther 1,390hp engine and a dorsal turret. Also the introduction of GEE...." Form 541 from the 35 Sqdn ORB's for February 1942 has a remark "This Squadron was screened during this month from Operations due to special modifications" It does not specify that the modifications were the installation of TR 1335 sets but it would appear that this was indeed what the modifications were and indeed I have heard it said by some of the former Squadron members in the past, and the other information provided here seems to back that up. I also have a copy of an Ops Order for the attack on Tirpitz that took place at the end of March 1942. From HQ No.4 Group Operation Order No.9 dated 21st March 1942, it clearly states in section 20. "All TR 1335 equipment is to be removed before aircraft proceed to advanced base" So in summary it would appear that 35 Squadron were equipped with TR 1335 in February 1942 and that any aircraft taking part in the ops against Tirpitz in Norway in both March & April 1942 had GEE sets removed before they left for their advanced bases in Scotland. The other Halifax Sqdns taking part were 10 and 76 but I'm not sure what their GEE status was at that time as I only went through the 35 Sqdn stuff I had to hand. Hope that helps a bit. Regards Linzee ....Read More.Linzee on 15th September 2008 11:55:50
Message header "Secret M.I.9"hello Ken, Yes you're right. Depending on the reference of the file in Kew, 'your' report could be an "escape & Evasion" report, (first part in the WO208 series), or a "liberation report", which follow the first ones in the WO208 series at TNA, Kew. "The liberation reports" were either (they are mixed together in the volumes / boxes) servicemen who had known a certain kind of freedom (either before being eventually captured, or who escaped from camps but were retaken). In the case of repatriation of internees from Sweden, I've also seen similar documents from internees in Portugal and all were evasion reports for sure. For example the airmen from the April 1942 Tirpitz raid who managed to reach Sweden from Norway (the crew of Hendon's Halifax W1048). Sgt David Lionel PERRY's report is in WO208/3312, report 1133. As far as "Intelligence" is concerned, the reports that we can access at Kew are not the full ones, as names of helpers in the occupied countries are not given. This was sensitive material then (that's obvious) and in the following years (in case of a third world war against USSR and again occupation of the continent) but these information are still classified now... The U.S. equivalent has been "released" years ago, and names and adresses of helpers are given in full, when the evaders knew them obviously. Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 9th March 2009 04:58:56
AiB AVIA Class ReportsThis file is in better condition in the TNA. More files have photos and the extent of report is expanded from those previously in AVIA5/19 Far fewer mistakes in aircraft serial transcription AA759 Spitfire V 22/10/1941 W1129 AA801 Spitfire IV 29/10/1941 W1132 AB646 Oxford II 30/11/1941 W1149 AB693 Oxford II 20/09/1941 W1111 AH432 Havoc II 21/11/1941 W1143 AH582 Airacobra I ??/10/1941 W1125 AH847 Tomahawk Ia 20/10/1941 W1126 AH856 Tomahawk Ia 31/05/1941 W1031 AH888 Tomahawk Iia 30/04/1941 W1015 AH922 Tomahawk IIa 11/09/1941 W1105A AL562 Liberator II 23/11/1941 W1146 AM260 Liberator I 14/08/1941 W1089 AM261 Liberator I 10/08/1941 W1086a AM915 Liberator I 01/09/1941 W1100 AN522 Fortress I 22/06/1941 W1048 AN534 Fortress I 28/07/1941 W1072 AN536 Fortress I 09/01/1942 W1165 AP475 Oxford II 07/02/1942 W1177 AR671 Mohawk IV 30/01/1942 W1175 AW209 Beaufort I 29/07/1941 W1072a AW215 Beaufort I ??/06/1941 W1040 AW395 Havoc I 26/01/1942 W1171 AW850 Anson I 13/01/1942 W1169 BB912 Havoc I 22/04/1941 W1010 BD786 Hurricane Iib 30/08/1941 W1097 BJ494 Havoc I 29/09/1941 W1115 BL407 Spitfire V 24/12/1941 W1159 BL432 Spitfire V 14/02/1942 W1180 BL480 Spitfire V ??/01/1942 W1174 BL491 Spitfire V 08/03/1942 W1191 BL538 Spitfire V 09/03/1942 W1190 BL568 Spitfire V 10/01/1942 W1167 BT488 Hotspur II 19/12/1941 W1157 HM178 Argus I 15/03/1942 W1196 K5608 Shark II 24/02/1942 W1183 K6110 Tutor I 07/09/1941 W1103 L2887 Skua II 15/05/1941 W1023a L3152 Roc 30/07/1941 W1076a L3284 Henley I 03/06/1941 W1032 L4297 Wellington I 29/04/1941 W1013 L4575 Oxford I 05/05/1941 W1019 L4622 Oxford I 15/11/1941 W1139 L4636 Oxford I 25/10/1941 W1130 L4851 Blenheim IV 01/07/1941 W1055 L5964 Magister I 08/12/1941 W1152 L6195 Botha I 18/11/1941 W1140 L6396 Botha I 11/03/1942 W1194 L6449 Botha I 10/06/1941 W1038a L6750 Blenheim I 24/01/1942 W1173 L6845 Whirlwind P 11/06/1941 W1039 L7248 Lerwick I 21/10/1941 W1127 L7300 Manchester I 23/11/1941 W1144 L7310 Manchester I 21/06/1941 W1046 L7315 Manchester I 29/06/1941 W1053 L7318 Manchester I 15/09/1941 W1107 L7428 Manchester I 18/11/1941 W1141 L7863 Wellington Ic 06/01/1942 W1163 L8084 Magister I 25/06/1941 W1051 L8164 Magister I 11/12/1941 W1153 L9567 Halifax 14/09/1941 W1106a L9652 Oxford I 14/09/1941 W1005 L9935 Beaufort I 07/02/1942 W1178 N1474 Whitley V 17/06/1941 W1042 N3286 Spitfire I 15/08/1941 W1090 N3627 Blenheim IV 08/08/1941 W1086 N3935 Magister I 05/06/1941 W1034 N4563 Oxford I 04/05/1941 W1018 N5453 DH.82 Tiger Moth II 07/07/1941 W1058 N6019 Stirling I 08/05/1941 W1020 N6087 Stirling I 18/11/1941 W1142 N6431 Oxford II 30/01/1942 W1176 N6595 DH.82 Tiger Moth II 17/09/1941 W1108 N7574 Master I 25/09/1941 W1112b N7581 Master I 30/08/1941 W1098 N7704 Master I 07/06/1941 W1035 N7765 Master I 25/09/1941 W1113 N7927 Master I 14/05/1941 W1022 N7996 Master I 17/03/1942 W1199a N9318 DH.82 Tiger Moth II ??/06/1941 W1037 N9643 Anson I 22/04/1941 W1009 N9817 Anson I 15/05/1941 W1023 P1294 Hampden I 30/10/1941 W1133 P1368 Albemarle I 28/02/194 ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 11th November 2011 11:47:59
RPM counters ?Hello Peter I presume your pic is in the gallery. The Halifax would have had a rev counter for each of the four engines and the Mark II (Mk 2) was fitted with either the Merlin XX or Merlin 22 engines. The official RAF Flight Mechanics (Engine) AP 3042, for a Merlin XX indicates the Maximum power rating as 1,250 B.H.P. at 3,000 r.p.m. at 12,250 ft. And + 9 lb. per sq. inch boost in "high" supercharger gear. The instrument panel photos of Halifax RPM guages appear to have thicker numbers than yours. So it is homework and research for old early WW2 b&w period photographs and also the Halifax Mk II was made by several makers. The following have Halifax aircraft examples, and/or cockpits of various marks:- Halifax wreck W1048 RAF Museum Hendon Halifax Cockpit PN323 Imperial War Museum, London Halifax LV907 Yorkshire Air Museum, Elvington, near York Halifax NA337 Trenton Canada (who I hear have two instrument panels?) Peter Whitfield (instrument Panel) who I understand is also involved with 57 Rescue Canada who are rebuilding a Halifax, from LW170 and other parts. Cockpitfest incorporating the International Cockpit Club who once displayed a Halifax panel at one their shows. Ian Foster, who has a reproduction panel Cees Broer (alias CeBro of the Halifax Cockpit Project) Google these names and you will probably find that they have collected up a lot of photos / manufacturers print copies / plans and evidence for their rebuilds and email them your photos? Mark ....Read More.Mark Hood on 5th December 2014 03:07:37
"Making for Sweden"I was wondering if anyone has the book "Making for Sweden" by Wegmann and Widefeldt in their collection as I understand it has some information regarding the crew of Halifax W1048, which was lost on 27th / 28th April 1942. The current price prevents me from purchasing, hence the request before I ask if my local library can obtain a copy. Regards Pete ....Read More.PeteT on 21st June 2017 02:50:25
"Making for Sweden"Col. Thanks for the response. I understand from other sources that pages 33-35 cover the crew of Halifax W1048 and I was wondering if it provides any information on their evasion route and timescales. I am making the assumption that all crew members stayed together, but that may be a false assumption. Regards Pete ....Read More.PeteT on 22nd June 2017 05:25:33
Halifax "exchange"I am just doing some research on a particular aircraft and I noted that on 9th April 1942, No. 35 Squadron's ORB shows "six Halifax aircraft MKII (W1047, W1048, W1049, W1050, W1051, W1053) arrived from No 102 Squadron, these were exchanged for six of our own aircraft having special modifications on them" Does anyone know what these modifications were and why the exchange took place? Regards Pete ....Read More.PeteT on 28th March 2018 12:40:05


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