Spitfire PR.III X4497 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image Database] RAFCommands.com
Spitfire PR.III X4497
Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry
|Date of Crash || 20 Aug 41 ||Aircraft Name || Spitfire PR.IV ||Serial Number || X4497 |
|Unit || 1 PRU ||Operating Airfield || ||Country || LWT|
|Aircrew details || |
|Source|| Henk Welting's Database|
National Archives AIR81
|Citation ||AIR81 Casualty File Description ||Link |
|AIR81/8471||Flying Officer S H Dowse: prisoner of war; aircraft crashed at sea off the coast off Brest, France, Spitfire X4497, 1 Photographic Reconnaissance Unit, 20 August 1941.||C16924313|
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|N° 1 PRU aircraft||Answered own question:
X4491 and X4497 on 20th August 1941
So who was on what one?
According to the RAF POW list on this site: X4491 was Greenhill #40906 so X4497 must be Dowse must it?? but both this sites RAF POW List and CC Losses have Dowse on 15th August 1941 in unknown Spitfire! and the closeness of the serials and same date worries me! ....Read More.||paulmcmillan on 2nd February 2009 06:15:50|
|N° 1 PRU aircraft||1 PRU ORB F.540 confirms both Dowse and Greenhill MIA on 20Aug41
X4497 and X4491 are the a/c missing.
No corresponding F.541 entry to tie which a/c to which pilot.
Andy Fletcher ....Read More.||Andy Fletcher on 2nd February 2009 03:45:51|
|N° 1 PRU aircraft||Thanks Paul and Andy for your answer, and the appreciated links of interest. I’m afraid nothing allowed me to tell which pilot flew which plane. But on http://www.spitfires.ukf.net/production.htm, at least both X4491 and X4497 were lost on 20 Aug 1941, what is confirmed by Andy’s info about 1 PRU ORB F.540.
On the french book « Lanvéoc Poulmic, Mémoires de rade » from René Martin and Michel Baraer, it is said the pilot landed near Telgruc shore, so on the Crozon peninsula.
I soon as I receive my book, I’ll maybe have some other details to share.
But do you think, for the one crashed near Lannilis, that no ammunition and several oxygen bottles can only be a PRU aircraft ?
The data plate with serial number may still be under the ground, as those who excavated this site spent so much time to dig out the two main gears, the engine and the propeller, that they couldn’t have a look at all the other small parts.
And nothing at all was found from the one that crashed at Lanvéoc, what doesn’t help.
Gildas ....Read More.||Gildas on 2nd February 2009 04:30:05|
|N° 1 PRU aircraft||[QUOTE=Gildas;23206]The data plate with serial number may still be under the ground, as those who excavated this site spent so much time to dig out the two main gears, the engine and the propeller, that they couldn’t have a look at all the other small parts.[/QUOTE]
Was the engine c/n 37835 (X4491) or 38621 (X4497), or a different one? ....Read More.||VoyTech on 3rd February 2009 05:15:20|
|N° 1 PRU aircraft||The info provided by Wojtek probably comes from the ORB.
The F.540 lists both engines as Merlin XLV 38621 (X4497) and 37835 (X4491). ....Read More.||Andy Fletcher on 3rd February 2009 02:03:51|