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Hurricane I Z4227 [Royal Air Force Aircraft Serial and Image Database] RAFCommands.com

 Hurricane I Z4227



SD K Coombo ,258 Sqn lost 1942-04-05 More information in: RAFCommands.com Databases

Block 3/G, Gloster Aircraft Co, RR Merlin III or XX, July 1940 - Aug 1941 More information in: Dr. Colin James Pratt-Hooson's Hurricane Site

Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash  05 Apr 42 Aircraft Name  Hurricane I Serial Number  Z4227
Unit  258 Sqdn Operating Airfield  Ratmalana Country  Ceylon
Aircrew details Plt Offr Edward Maurice Thomas TREMLETT* (101095)
Details SD K
Source ORB / HurricanesOver

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