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AIR81/8059Pilot Officer G R Timewell: killed; aircraft accident at Newborough, Anglesey, Hurricane Z2404, 615 Squadron, 4 August 1941.C16757356

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Abbreviations and acronymsJason, I found your thread 'Abbreviation and acronyms' in the old archives, but could I suggest you repeat the link here? While I'm about it here's a few more to add: ATD - Actual Time of Departure ETD - Estimated Time of Departure ETA - Emergency Temporary Accommodation (this was actually the code name for the wartime location of the Central Forecasting Office at Dunstable. The CFO moved into what was intended to be temporary wartime accommodation in Feb 1940 - and remained there until 1961!) Brian ....Read More.Lyffe on 13th November 2007 01:52:41
Welcome and thanks..A huge thanks to those involved in keeping up with the spam on the old board so efficiently and for providing this new platform. I've not been a long time user of RAF Commands, but have already come to realise that it it is an invaluable tool and a fantastic resource. One of the most important things is that it is a very welcoming experience for newcomers. Thanks are due not only to Ross and Chris for that, but to the entirety of the membership. I think you all deserve a pat on the back for your kindness, your help and your approachability regarding a field of research, which, being acronym rich, can prove somewhat intimidating for the uninitiated. I look forward to learning hugely from the membership and hope that, in turn, I can add my own little bit of knowledge to the melting pot where appropriate. Regards, Kevin Mears ....Read More.Kevin Mears on 13th November 2007 03:06:34
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North Coates and Langham Wings strike 15/6/1944Hello, I'm from Holland and I am looking for information on a strike at 15/6/1944 above the frisian islands. I have an book called: The Ship Busters from Ralph Barker, in this book is a lot of information about the attack but I wonder if there is a possible way to find out more about this attack? The Coastal command striked many times above the frisian islands, is there a good book (serie) that will explain every attack? I will paste a part of the attack: "Some days earlier, a report had filtered through from the Dutch underground that a large convoy was preparing to leave Rotterdam for the Baltic, consisting of two new vessels which had just been completed and would be on their maiden voyage, the 8000-ton merchant vessel Amerskerke and a 4000-ton naval auxiliary, escorted by no less than eighteen smaller vessels. The disruption and chaos wrought amongst German rail and road communications prior to D-Day had forced the Germans to rely more than ever on their sea routes, so that the destruction of these two new vessels, almost as soon as they were launched, would represent an important contribution to the breaking down of the enemy's power to resist and to the shortening of the war. The advance information given by the Dutch resistance gave us the chance to plan a large-scale operation, the biggest of its kind so far. A new wing had been formed at Langham in Norfolk to deal with enemy shipping that might attempt to interfere with our invasion convoys, and it was decided to send two squadrons of this wing together with two of the North Coates wing, the whole to be escorted by ten Mustangs of Fighter Command. Of the four squadrons, three were to dive on the convoy and smother the defences with cannon and rockets, and the fourth was to come in at low level and aim torpedoes at the two new ships. The two squadrons of the Langham wing, 455 (Australian) and 489 (New Zealand), had done most of their earlier operations off the Norwegian coast, too far from base to allow escort by single-seater fighters" Best regards, Remy, ....Read More.Remy on 13th November 2007 04:21:52
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29 March 1945 - Italian crash siteGreetings Everyone, Back again with another curly one from my Italian contact. The only information I have on this crash in 1945 is:- 29 March 1945 Twin engined aircraft. Near QUINZANO d'OGLIO (BRESCIA) 12 km E of GENIVOLTA. This time I have only found a possible Mosquitoe of 237 Squadron and one crew members name - F/O. Harold Edgar Cecil AYLWARD. Did he crash at the above location? If anyone can come up with anything it would again, be most appreciated. Cheers, Digger. ....Read More.Arthur Arculus on 13th November 2007 08:01:52
Replacing Lost MedalsIf you go to:- you will see all about medals, including:- Can I obtain replacements of lost medals? The Medal Office only issue replacement medals to service veterans or, if deceased, the member of the family who now holds the medals, under certain strict conditions where the loss is completely outside the individual’s control in such instances as burglary, street theft or house fire. Only World War II medals and those issued subsequently can be replaced, provided that the criteria described here are met. The Medal Office is unable to replace medals issued before World War II, such as First World War medals, under any circumstances. Should you wish to claim for replacement medals in these circumstances, you should please provide details of the incident (i.e. burglary, fire etc.) and submit supporting contemporary evidence from the time of loss, by way of a copy of a successful insurance claim, or a Police crime report, either/both of which should include reference to the loss of the medals. A crime reference number alone is not sufficient. A lost property report is also insufficient. If these criteria are met then the Medal Office can issue replacement medals, but please note that there will still be a charge for the medals. The Medal Office will also check official records to confirm that the medals requested had been awarded to you or your relative. In all other cases, you may wish to consider purchasing replica medals from a specialist medal company or reputable medal dealer. Stewart ....Read More.Stewart McLoughlin on 13th November 2007 09:45:33
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Welcome and thanks..Three cheers for Ross. Let's hope this runs as smoothly as the old one. Many thanks gentlemen for all your help. Having found a bit of a niche on these boards it is perhaps time for me to slip out from behind my wife's skirt tails. Truth to tell I was surfing in her profile for information about her dad when I found the site. Being on a diet she will be pleased to be spared the messages from currant bun in her inbox. wishing you all the very best, Howdie formerly alias Lauries_Girl ....Read More.Howdie on 14th November 2007 05:45:54
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Bomber Command Night Reports.Kevin, I recall seeing files in the NA that were monthly summaries by one of the Groups - these included acounts of raids in which the Group was involved. I think it was 3 Group, and there is certainly a series of files AIE14/2363 - AIR14/2367 (Monthly summary of events) covering April 1940 to November 1945. I think I was looking something up for Max (Galgos) at the time, so it is just possible he still has the file reference. Unfortunately I've deleted our exchange of emails. However, you might be better served by AIR14/2984-AIR13/2984 (PFF attacks by Main Force on enemy targets: briefing statements and reports). I have not viewed these files so do not know what they contain. I have been unable to find any corresponding HQ Bomber Command files, but surely they must exist somewhere. You could try asking Hendon for a lead. Brian ....Read More.Lyffe on 15th November 2007 02:49:51
Bomber Command Night Reports.Hi Kevin and Brian, Yes, I remember it well!!! I'll have a look at my files when I get home, but Kevin you can also get copies of raid reports for specific times if you write to the Air Historical Branch. Regards Max ....Read More.Galgos on 15th November 2007 03:08:36
Bomber Command Night Reports.Thank you Ross, I only hope RAFPMA comes up with the more sensible approach taken by Australia and Canada. What is so frustrating is that on the occasions I have been able to contact the families of wartime casualties, they have always been extremely interested and only too willing to help. You know my interest is in Met Office wartime casualties, but that has no record of people at all. At one time personnel records were retained for 100 years before destruction and some of these would have contained extremely valuable historical information. However, during the late 1990s this all changed and apparently now no records at all are kept - full stop! I worked in the organisation for over 40 years, but even I cannot now obtain a record of my service, and I only retired in 2001. Brian ....Read More.Lyffe on 15th November 2007 06:02:22
Welcome and thanks..Everything is possible but all at a cost of time. I can moderate all posts but nothing would appear until I logged on to sanction it destroying the speed of the board. I can set the board up to send passwords to the registered email address but again this takes more time than I wish to spend in admin. Ross ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 15th November 2007 07:16:46
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263 Squadron individual id lettersQuite right Dick, except that R8927 was actually still on charge 181 Squadron when lost, coded EL-R; it was borrowed by 182, who were one aircraft short, and lost along with its pilot, Flg Off M.I.Fraleigh. As regards MN823/J on Dakota's list - there is no record of this aircraft being with 263. However you already have a MN883/J which is correct, and the likely source. The other serial he mentions, MN139/Q you already have as R (correct); not to say that it could not have been Q as well as many aircraft had code changes during their service. However, I guess it probably comes from John Rawlings 'Fighter Squadrons' which - good as it was - does utilise a lot of codes from the lists that were exchanged between enthusiasts in the late forties/fifties. These were from raw 'spotters' reports - at a time when the full serial ranges were not known, never mind individual aircraft histories - and are subject to transcription errors (you know - written on the back of your hand while furiously pedalling away from the security guard!). If you are interested in accuracy of codes carried - known provenance is key. Sweeping them up from all sources offered is a waste of time. CT ....Read More.Chris Thomas on 15th November 2007 02:41:38
Spitfire GW-J 340 Squadron crash in BelgiumLuc, This one puzzles me as well. Civilians around are not dressed for winter, indicating a time frame. Area liberated already. Serial starts with "P". Some possibilities: PL188 FTR 14-9-44 Recat B 4-11-44 PL317 Cat B ops 16-9-44 PT892 FTR ops 20-9-44 Unfortunately I don't have squadron codes for these to make a match. Regards, Leendert Brugge ....Read More.Leendert on 15th November 2007 04:09:41
Bomber Command Night Reports.[QUOTE=Galgos;168]Brian wrote: "What is so frustrating is that on the occasions I have been able to contact the families of wartime casualties, they have always been extremely interested and only too willing to help." I couldn't agree more Brian, in every instance where I have been able to let families know the details of their loved ones, they have been so grateful. I even had a phone call out of the blue last week from the nephew of one airman telling me that he was at Shannon airport on his way to the Reichswald War Cemetery to look at his uncle's grave. If only "the Authorities" would acknowledge this instead of coming up with spurious excuses about privacy infringements, life would be easier and more fulfilling for all of us. Max[/QUOTE] Just to reinforce the above observation; I've been contacted along similar lines by some 10% of the rellies of the nearly 5000 individuals covered in my 'For Your Tomorrow' volumes about New Zealand casualties. The most common theme is profuse thanks for providing them for the first time (60 or so years after the event) with the circumstances of the fate of a loved one. In the nine years since publication of the first volume I've never once received a single 'privacy' query or complaint. 'Privacy', it seems to me, is too often used as an excuse by bureaucrats who simply can't be bothered. The words 'We will remember them' are completely lost on them. Errol ....Read More.Errol Martyn on 15th November 2007 05:41:56

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