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Sergeant Francis WILLIAMS (566298) of the Royal Air Force

Pilot
Lost in aircraft Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450

Death of Death 1940-05-21 .

Served in 115 Sqdn

Burial/Commemoration Details : Divn. 64. Plot 6.Row P. Grave 7. at Ste. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre, France

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National Archives AIR81

Citation AIR81 Casualty File Description Link
AIR81/331Sergeant G T Barker and Sergeant J D F Williams: report of deaths. Leading Aircraftman A K Summerson: prisoner of war, later reported as safe; Battle P5232 failed to return from an operational flight, 14 May 1940.C14502325
AIR81/450Sergeant F Williams, Sergeant F A G Lowe, Aircraftman 2nd Class T Kennedy, Leading Aircraftman H G Griffin, Aircraftman 2nd Class A Robinson and Pilot Officer D W W Morris: report of deaths; Wellington R3152 crashed near Le Havre, France, 21 May 1940.C14502121
AIR81/2241Pilot Officer J D T Prtitchard, Aircraftman N F Williams: missing believed killed; aircraft accident, Rhoscolyn, Henley L3432, 1 Anti-Aircraft Cooperation Unit, 10 June 1940.C16471643
AIR81/3952Pilot Officer P H Slater, Sergeant H W Jones, Corporal H Holland: killed; Leading Aircraftman D Gough, Aircraftman H Windeler, Aircraftman R F Williams, Sergeant E Green, Sergeant D W Bristow, Leading Aircraftman T Coles: injured; Blenheim T2233, enemy bombing raid RAF Lossiemouth, 26 October 1940.C16688050
AIR81/4502Sergeant R A Attfield, Sergeant O Deeham, Sergeant J A Waters: killed; Sergeant J F Williams: prisoner of war; aircraft failed to return from operational flight over enemy territory, Hampden X2975, 61 Squadron, 8 December 1940.C16688600

Aircraft Accident / Loss Entry

Date of Crash 1940-01-01 22 May 40 Aircraft Name Wellington IC Serial Number R3152
Unit 115 Sqdn Operating Airfield Country France
Aircrew details
Details
Source Henk Welting's Database

Other Aircrew lost in Wellington IC R3152

Rank Name, Number, Trade & Details DateUnit Country Cemetary/Memorial & Loc Ref
Leading AircraftmanHarold George GRIFFIN (755893) Wireless Op./Air Gunner Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre
Aircraftman 2nd ClassThomas KENNEDY (632947) Wireless Operator (Air) Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre
SergeantFrancis Alfred George LOWE (581516) Observer Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre
Pilot OfficerDouglas William West MORRIS (41048) Pilot Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre
Aircraftman 2nd ClassAllen ROBINSON (631370) Radio Operator (Air) Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre
SergeantFrancis WILLIAMS (566298) Pilot Wellington Ic R3152  AIR81/450 1940-05-21115 Sqdn AIR27 FranceSte. Marie Cemetery, Le Havre


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1941 N0. 19 OTU. course photograph of 32 named pilotsThird screening of a 1941 photograph showing 32 future Bomber pilots undergoing operational training at 19 O.T.U. RAF Kinloss. The photo was kindly given to me by the family of the late Group Captain IVESON. Since first posted in 2009, 13 have been identified,. Can you help with the remaining 19 please ? I have exhausted the LG and Flight Global and used every conceivable combination of full-stop, space, comma etc. but there's always the chance someone may come up with some further details. The photo was kindly given to me by the family of the late Group Captain IVESON. Thank you The photograph can be seen on Photobucket using the following URL http://s563.photobucket.com/albums/ss72/dfuller52/?action=view¤t=21OTU-1941.jpg Back Row Standing: (L-R) # FINDON. CARDEN, Gordon Edward, 1292442. FORD-HUTCHINSON, Roger Francis Stuart. Sgt, died 24/7/1941 on 76 Sqn flying Halifaxes ROWLEY-BLAKE, Douglas. Sgt, died 8/11/1941 with 58 Squadron flying Whitleys. His aircraft was lost at sea while returning from a bombing raid on Berlin. Attended High Storrs Grammar School, 1932-1937 MODELAND, Seward Terry, R/56234 102 Sqn # MORGAN. # WHITE. # O’BRIEN. # STUART ABECASSIS. George Edgar. Became Squadron Leader with 161 Squadron flying Sterlings. He was shot down on 7/10/1944 from Tempsford on operation Tablejam. Became PoW in Stalag Luft III. WHYTE, 'Chic' CO of 76 Sqn Jan 1945 FLOCKHART. C..B. Sgt, (Later Wg Cdr). 2nd Pilot on Halifax Mk I, Serial No. 9516 MP, shot down 5 Aug 1941. Baled out over Glabeek, Belgium (40km E Brussels), captured, sent to Stalag Luft 1, moved to Stalag Luft VI in Summer of 1943. Escaped 18 Feb 1944, returned to UK via Sweden. Awarded DCM 26 February 1946 at Buckingham Palace by King George VI. Died 15 March 1988. # JONES, L.. # KNIGHTS. # MURRAY. # MERCER. POOLES. Could be be Flt Lt M Pooles from 35 Squadron who was lost on 30th March 1942. http://www.archieraf.co.uk/archie/1020tlk.html is a link # GRIGG. # WOOD. # MARTIN. Could be HAMILTON-MARTIN Front Row, Seated: (L-R) # ANSON. # ROWE or ROWEN # FOILIOT-FOSTER, F # WILLIAMS. If Williams N. L. - came from No.2 SFTS # COOPER. IVESON, Douglas. 'Hank' Iveson. Born 1917, died 1994. Service number 86384. Amongst many commands was CO of 76 Sqn. Flew every type of heavy bomber during the war. Post war, flew all types of 'V' bombers, Became Waddingtons 'Station Commander during the cold war in the 1960s. QUICK, 77 Sqn? GASKELL. Could be W/C Peter Ridley Gaskell DFC 63818, He was a F/L on 102 Squadron during the summer of '42 and ended up as C/O of 357 squadron from July to November '45 # SUTS COOPER or SURS COOPER # PERKS. PUTTICK. Wilfred, died 26 Jul 1941 with 10 Squadron flying Whitleys. REYNOLDS, John Alfred. Died 8 Sep 1941 after returning from an operation over Berlin in Whitley Z6937 of 51 Sqn. Code: MH-S. One of three aircraft lost on this operation. (Whitley Z6744, Z6938) Took-off from RAF Dishforth 20:03 hrs to bomb Berlin. Re ....Read More.namrondooh on 13th April 2012 03:41:02
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William MacDonald NZ417219 7 SquadronSorry guys, after I posted this, I found a thread where this had been discussed - so matter closed, unless anybody can provide information regarding the 7 squadron part of Williams career. Simon ....Read More.bgizmo on 18th July 2012 04:40:06
Great Escape melting potDear All After a bit of scrabbling around with my PC I am submitting a list to start the ball rolling on who may or may not be involved in The Great Escape. Originally called "Escape 200" the idea was to get 200 men out. Of course you all know what happened. There are many books, web sites, obituaries etc out there which cast varying lists of names and numbers. Hopefully if we all put or minds together we can come up with something relatively comprehensive. I have not listed ranks as these may differ from the rank given when they were shot down, escaped or retired. There may be spelling errors. I have found a range of spellings that are in my notes on each individual. All names are listed alphabetially, and if the number in the draw is known that is listed too. However there may be some disagreement on some of these numbers. The names are sub divided into 'The Fifty', those that made home runs, remainder of those that are known to have been in The 200, those who were involved but were purged to other camps before the escape, and those who are known to have been involved in the escape in an assisting role but were not on the list of 200. Please feel free to suggest if an individual should be added, removed or moved to another part of the list. All comments are very welcome. Best wishes James “The Fifty” Those who escaped and were executed by the Gestapo Henry ‘Hank’ J Birkland E Gordon Brettell Lester J. ‘Johnny’ Bull No 1 Roger Bushell No 4 Michael J Casey James ‘Jimmy’ Catanach Arnold G Christensen Dennis H Cochran No 16 Ian K P Cross Halldor Espelid Brian H Evans Nils Fuglesang Johannes S. Gouws William J Grisman Alastair D M Gunn Albert H Hake Charles P Hall Anthony R H ‘Tony’ Hayter Edgar S Humphreys Gordon A Kidder No 20 Reginald V Kierath No 32 Antoni Kiewnarski Thomas G Kirby-Green No 21 Adam Wlodzimierz Kolanowski Stanislaw Z. ‘Danny’ Krol Patrick W Langford Thomas B Leigh James L R ‘Cookie’ Long Clement A. Neville McGarr George E McGill Romualdas ‘Rene’ Marcinkus Harold J Milford Jerzy Tomasc Mondschein Kazimierz Pawluk Henri A Picard Porokoru Patapu ‘Johnny’ Pohe Bernard W M Scheidhauer No 5 Sotoris ‘Nick’ Skanzikas Rupert J Stevens Robert C. ‘Bob’ Stewart John G Stower No 22 Denys O. Street Cyril D Swain Pawel 'Peter' Whilem Tobolski Arnost ‘Ernie’ Valenta No 3 Gilbert W ‘Tim’ Walenn James C Wernham George W Wiley John Edwin Ashley Williams No 31 John F Williams “The Three” Those who escaped and achieved a Home Run Peter Bergsland No 44 Jens Müller N0 43 Bram (Bob) Van der Stok No 18 “The Two Hundred” Apart from those already listed, those who were members of the original 200 Albert Armstrong Paddy Barthropp Alan Birley Bateman R.Anthony (Tony) Bethell No 65 or 66 Leslie C.J. Brodrick No 52 William ‘Bill’ J Cameron Stanley Carter Johnny Crozier No 180 Harry Melville Arbuthnot ‘Wings’ Day Johnny Dodge Sydney Dowse Freddie ....Read More.James Castle on 18th February 2013 12:00:07
Great Escape melting potJames “The Fifty” Those who escaped and were executed by the Gestapo Henry ‘Hank’ J Birkland E Gordon Brettell Lester J. ‘Johnny’ Bull No 1 Roger Bushell No 4 Michael J Casey James ‘Jimmy’ Catanach Arnold G Christensen Dennis H Cochran No 16 Ian K P Cross Halldor Espelid Brian H Evans Nils Fuglesang Johannes S. Gouws William J Grisman Alastair D M Gunn Albert H Hake Charles P Hall Anthony R H ‘Tony’ Hayter Edgar S Humphreys Gordon A Kidder No 20 Reginald V Kierath No 32 Antoni Kiewnarski Thomas G Kirby-Green No 21 Adam Wlodzimierz Kolanowski Stanislaw Z. ‘Danny’ Krol Patrick W Langford Thomas B Leigh James L R ‘Cookie’ Long Clement A. Neville McGarr George E McGill Romualdas ‘Rene’ Marcinkus Harold J Milford Jerzy Tomasc Mondschein Kazimierz Pawluk Henri A Picard Porokoru Patapu ‘Johnny’ Pohe Bernard W M Scheidhauer No 5 Sotoris ‘Nick’ Skanzikas Rupert J Stevens Robert C. ‘Bob’ Stewart John G Stower No 22 Denys O. Street Cyril D Swain Pawel 'Peter' Whilem Tobolski Arnost ‘Ernie’ Valenta No 3 Gilbert W ‘Tim’ Walenn James C Wernham George W Wiley John Edwin Ashley Williams No 31 John F Williams “The Three” Those who escaped and achieved a Home Run Peter Bergsland No 44 Jens Müller N0 43 Bram (Bob) Van der Stok No 18 “The Two Hundred” Apart from those already listed, those who were members of the original 200 Albert Armstrong Paddy Barthropp Alan Birley Bateman R.Anthony (Tony) Bethell No 65 or 66 Leslie C.J. Brodrick No 52 William ‘Bill’ J Cameron Stanley Carter Johnny Crozier No 180 Harry Melville Arbuthnot ‘Wings’ Day Johnny Dodge Sydney Dowse Freddie Dvorak Richard Sidney Albion ‘Dick’ Churchill No 48 or 63 Bedrich ‘Freddie’ Dvorak Bill Fordyce No 86 Bernard ‘Pop’ Green Peter Frank Hall John Harris No 179 Jack Harrison No 96 Tom Jackson No 139 Bernard A. (Jimmy) James No 39 Gordon ‘Gordie’ King No 141 H W "Piglet" Lamond Roy Brouard Langlois ( Roy Brouard Langlois No. 60) Jack K. Lyon No 88 Bob McBride Alistair Thompson McDonald Henry Cuthbert ‘Johnny’ Marshall Denys Maw Joe Moul No 82 Alexander Desmond Neely No 28 Thomas Robert ‘Bob’ Nelson ‘Red’ Noble No 80 Alfred Keith Ogilvie Desmond Lancelot Plunkett No 13 Douglas Arthur Poynter Laurence Reavell-Carter No 75 Paul G. Royle No 54 Ken Rees Clive K. ‘Sax’ Saxelby No 79 or 82 Michael Moray ‘Mic’ Shand No 76 Colin Frank Sorensen No 81 Alfred B. Thompson Ivo P. Tonder Len Trent No 79 Raymond L.N. Van Wymeersch “The Purged” Those who were involved in the escape but ‘purged’ to other camps Peter 'Hornblower' Fanshawe Wally Floody George Harsh Ron Wade John Gordon "Scruffy" Weir Also purged! Kingsley Brown Zbishek Kustrzynski ( He went in the purge, but I can't tell what he did for the tunnel!). Gwyn Martin ( Navigator for Shag Rhys ). Robert Stanford Tuck Jim Tyrie ( distracting ferrets, Adolph ....... being on ....Read More.Robert Sveinson on 18th February 2013 10:05:58
Great Escape melting potDear All As we enjoy a long Bank Holiday here are a few names to think about. Thank you to all who have contributed so far, especially Robert who has been keeping me on my toes, or keeping my fingers tapping the keyboard. This is just a list of names and numbers. The full database will include aircraft details and roles within the escape. Please feel free to voice any views that you may have. Thank you James 50 executed Henry ‘Hank’ J Birkland Edward Gordon Brettell Lester J. ‘Johnny’ (Leslie George) Bull #1 Roger Joyce Bushell #4 Michael James Casey James ‘Jimmy’ Catanach Arnold George Christensen Dennis Herbert Cochran Ian E.Kingston Pembroke Cross Halldor Espelid Brian Herbert Evans Nils Fuglesang Johannes Stephanus Gouws William Jack Grisman Alastair Donald Mackintosh Gunn Albert Horace Hake Charles Piers Hall Anthony ‘Tony’ Ross Henzell Hayter Edgar Spottiswoode Humphreys Gordon Arthur Kidder #20 Reginald ‘Rusty’ Victor Kierath #32 Antoni Kiewnarski Thomas Gresham Kirby-Green #21 Adam Wlodzimierz Kolanowski Stanislaw Zygmunt ‘Danny’ Krol Patrick Wilson Langford Thomas Barker Leigh James Leslie Robert ‘Cookie’ Long Clement Aldwyn Neville McGarr George Edward McGill Romualdas ‘Rene’ ‘Romas’ Marcinkus Harold John Milford Jerzy Tomasc Mondschein Kazimierz Pawluk Henri Albert Picard Porokoru Patapu ‘Johnny’ Pohe Bernard William Martial Scheidhauer #5 Sotoris ‘Nick’ Skanzikas Rupert John Stevens #6 Robert ‘Bob’Campbell Stewart John Gifford Stower #22 Denys Oliver Street Cyril Douglas Swain Pawel 'Peter' Whilem Tobolski Arnošt ‘Ernie’ ‘Wally’ Valenta #3 Gilbert William ‘Tim’ Walenn James Chrystall Wernham George William Wiley John Edwin Ashley ‘Willy’ Williams #31 John Francis Williams 3 Home Run Jens Müller #43 Peter ‘Per’ Bergsland #44 Bram ‘Bob’ Van der Stok #18 26 Escaped and recaptured Albert Armstrong William ‘Bill’ J Cameron Harry Melville Arbuthnot ‘Wings’ Day John 'Johnnie' Bigelow Dodge Bedrich ‘Freddie’ Dvorak Bernard ‘Pop’ Green Bertram Arthur ‘Jimmy’ James #39 Alistair Thompson McDonald Thomas Robert ‘Bob’ Nelson Douglas Arthur Poynter Alfred Burke Thompson Ivo P. Tonder Raymond L.N. Van Wymeersch Richard Anthony ‘Tony’ Bethell #65 Henry Cuthbert ‘Johnny’ Marshall #2 Desmond Lancelot Plunkett #13 Sydney Hastings Dowse #21? Alexander Desmond Neely #28 Leslie ‘Les’Charles James Brodrick #52 Paul Gordon Royle #54 Richard Sidney Albion ‘Dick’ Churchill #63 (Last 5 out? They were all near the exit when it was discovered) Laurence Reavell-Carter Alfred Keith ‘Skeets’ Ogilvie Roy Brouard Langlois Leonard Henry Trent Michael Moray ‘Mick’ Shand (Shand was last one out, therefore cannot have been #76, he must have been #79.) (McBride was caught inside the tunnel, therefore was he #80?) Bob McBride #79 (Rees followed Saxelby, Moul & Maw) Ken ‘Shag’ Rees Clive K. ‘Sax’ Saxelby #79 or #82 Joe Moul #82 Denys Maw (Fordyce a ....Read More.James Castle on 29th March 2013 10:49:31
George Medal to Graham George WilliamsHello I'm resurrecting this old thread to inform you that this afternoon, a bronze plaque for Graham George WILLIAMS, GM, was unveiled on the wall of Eppe-Sauvage cemetery, in northern France, near the Belgian border. It is the village where he lost his life during the night 16/17 April 1943, returning from the Plzen raid. According to local information he was initially buried in the village, but moved to Maubeuge cemetery after the war. Incidentally, two nights before, another Bomber Command machine crashed in the same village. It was Lancaster I W4951 of No. 101 Squadron, whose Navigator F/O Henry Eifion CLEMENTS was a childhood friend of WILLIAMS ! Both came from Swansea. There were no survivors from W4951 and they were buried in Maubeuge Centre Cemetery. So there are buried in the same row, a few graves apart from each other. Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 20th April 2013 02:01:37
Clandestine Transport of V-2 Components from Germany/Poland to UK in WW2From C M Hanson’s[I] By Such Deeds – Honours and awards in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, 1923 – 1999 [/I]: [B]CULLIFORD, Flight Lieutenant Stanley George, DSO, Virtuti Militari (Pol). [/B] NZ412659; Born Napier, 18 Jul 1920; RNZAF 4 May 1941 to 3 May 1945; Pilot. Later S G Culliford DSO, Virtuti Militari (Pol), Polonia Restituta (Pol). [B]Virtuti Militari (Pol) [/B](1 Sep 1944): [I]Not available[/I]. “Conferred by the President of the Republic of Poland in recognition of valuable services rendered in connection with the war.” [B]Citation Companion of the Distinguished Service Order [/B](15 Oct 1944): [267 Sqn RAF (Dakota)] [I]Flight Lieutenant Culliford has completed, as pilot and captain of aircraft, numerous operations against the enemy in the course of which he has invariably displayed the utmost fortitude, courage and devotion to duty.[/I] [B]Polonia Restituta (Degree of Commander) (Pol): [/B](1969). This award, made by the Polish Government in 1969, included further recognition of his outstanding services to Poland during the war. Official records note that one of the outstanding flights of the war was carried out by 267 Sqn at the end of Jul 1944. The operation was to land four passengers and luggage at a point in southern Poland in the vicinity of Tarnow, and to bring passengers back from the landing field to Brindisi, Italy. The aircraft, a Dakota, fitted with four long range cabin tanks, was flown by Flt Lt Culliford, captain, with Fg Off Williams as navigator and F/S Appleby, wireless operator. The second pilot was a Polish Fg Off of 1586 Polish (SD) Flight RAF. Take-off was made before darkness with an escort of a Liberator of the Polish Flight which broke away when almost complete darkness had descended. In spite of the thick haze covering most of the ground, some excellent map reading was performed by the navigator and the Polish second pilot, and a pin-point was made on the Danube. The final turning point being reached only a minute later than ETA after a leg on which there were no pin-points and most of the navigation had been done by radio. Shortly before the target landing field was reached, a road was crossed on which a large amount of traffic could be seen moving from East to West. Ground signals as planned were seen and the airfield lights came on immediately the aircraft was near. The aircraft was unloaded and reloaded with incredible rapidity, and in less than five minutes was ready for take-off. The people on the ground said that only that morning about 400 Luftwaffe personnel, including aircrew under training, were encamped about a mile from the field and had been doing circuits and bumps in training aircraft. Some 4,000 German troops were also reported in the vicinity, moving westwards. During Flt Lt Culliford’s operation the landing field was guarded by about 400 members of the Polish underground whose torches formed the flare path. The incidents which follow are best described in the pilot’s report: “I exp ....Read More.Errol Martyn on 14th December 2014 04:13:26
Bostons 88 squadronHi Christian, Sorry for delay. lot of material so will forward by e mail soon if thats okay. Cline, Obodiac and Emsig all appear on the ORB starting ops on 25/8/44 same day as MacEachern. Understand that some crews from 34 OTU flew new Bostons over the pond although probably around 1942. Understand one BZ200 crashed in Ireland. Did that still go on in 1944 and if so did any of these guys do that ? Whilst on the subject of 34 OTU do you have any record of pilot P/O A L Breckels (85318) of Toronto , possibly W/O then. The crews you mentioned started out ops as P/O S Obodiac, P/O L O'Neill, F/sgt A Cayne and Sgt HF Makkinson BZ286/RH-E P/O J A Cline, Sgt G Kingborough/Kingsborough, Sgt J Mackay and Sgt KF Williams BZ235/RH-X P/O M Emsig, P/O R J Calford, Sgt FWE King and Sgt C F Adair BZ250/RH-Z regards Peter And for Jerrold will send on likewise. You're right, by the second entry the clerk had the initial right! Equally MacEachern seems to have been a problem for him, especially as a bit later there was a gunner called McEachern. ....Read More.PeterColwill on 24th April 2015 04:27:51
Operation Colossus - 10/2/1941Nick It's the crew names I am after as this is research for the Yorkshire Air Museum. Just looking at the crews in other ops it looks like that the Hoad crew died in March 1941 and that 2 of Williams' crew died in June 1941. ....Read More.John Larder on 19th February 2016 03:54:25
Operation Colossus - 10/2/1941[QUOTE=John Larder;116492]Nick It's the crew names I am after as this is research for the Yorkshire Air Museum. Just looking at the crews in other ops it looks like that the Hoad crew died in March 1941 and that 2 of Williams' crew died in June 1941.[/QUOTE] John As far as crew fatalities goes, i have the following: Hoad died with a different crew to the one which went on Colossus and with the exception of Sgt CA Smith the rest all seemed to have survived the war. I'm unsure of Smith as I don't have his service number and there are too many Smiths! It would appear that all of Flt W R Williams crew survived although I have question marks against Sgt Walker and PO McLeod. PO Robinson is killed later in the war as a Sqn Ldr with 158 Sqn in June 1943, Sergeant Hatcher is KIA with 83 Sqn as a Sqn Ldr and has picked up a DFC and an AFM. Sgt GW Holden, captain of T4236 is KIA as Sqn Ldr with 617 Sqn having received a DSO, DFC & Bar and an MiD. Sgt G Billing is KIA with 78 Sqn on 09 Jun 41. HTH Daz ....Read More.78SqnHistory on 22nd February 2016 11:25:50
If anyone has an Ancestry.com account andSearching on Family search .org the Mormon site brings up a few Marines by name of Williams , several of which are aircrew eg Williams, Pensacola 28/11/1927.also same date Observation Flight San Diego. No idea if it is the same guy being struck off strength of one unit and taken on the other.If you search the name , born 1900-1915 then select Military in "restrict records", then "Search all collections" - select USMC you'll get 1600 + to look through though most have different middle names. Hope this helps Pete ....Read More.Pete on 24th January 2017 04:41:55

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