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Leading Aircraftman John MUSGRAVE () of the Royal Australian Air Force

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Death of Death 1939-09-07 .

Served in 2 Aircraft Depot

Burial/Commemoration Details : R.C. Sec. 16. Grave 41. at Rookwood Necropolis, Sydney, Australia

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AIR81/1700Pilot Officer J Musgrave, Squadron Leader N Hope, Sergeant L Thom, Aircraftman D J O'Regan: killed; Hampden L4203, 185 Squadron; aircraft accident, High Wycombe, 30 November 1939.C16359645
AIR81/4278Pilot Officer T A K Aga, Corporal R J Musgrave: injured; aircraft accident, Magister R1953, 267 Squadron, 20 November 1940.C16688376

London Gazette Mentions

NumberName /Text London Gazette Details
14155Squadron Leader Philip Henry MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 34892 , Dated 1940-07-09 , Download #34892
41726Trenham Christopher MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 34801 , Dated 1940-02-27 , Download #34801
41726Trenham Christopher MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 34976 , Dated 1940-10-22 , Download #34976
41726T C MUSGRAVE O B E D F CLondon Gazette supplement : 37345 , Dated 1945-11-09 , Download #37345
41726Trenham Christopher MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 34718 , Dated 1939-10-27 , Download #34718
41726T C MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35319 , Dated 1941-10-21 , Download #35319
47264John Rigg MUSGRAVE M C Lt Border RLondon Gazette issue : 35398 , Dated 1941-12-30 , Download #35398
56102Lt Brian Rhodes MUSGRAVE R A CLondon Gazette supplement : 36759 , Dated 1944-10-20 , Download #36759
56530Fig Offs R MUSGRAVE D F C D F MLondon Gazette supplement : 37614 , Dated 1946-06-14 , Download #37614
56530566278 Raymond George MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36978 , Dated 1945-03-09 , Download #36978
56530R G MUSGRAVE DF CD F MLondon Gazette supplement : 37237 , Dated 1945-08-21 , Download #37237
576363042209 Brian Musgrave HODGSONLondon Gazette supplement : 37518 , Dated 1946-03-29 , Download #37518
73310R MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35383 , Dated 1941-12-16 , Download #35383
73310R MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36633 , Dated 1944-07-28 , Download #36633
74190Barrington le Butt MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 34694 , Dated 1939-09-26 , Download #34694
74190Barrington Le Butt MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 34976 , Dated 1940-10-22 , Download #34976
74190B le B MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 37373 , Dated 1945-11-30 , Download #37373
74190B Le B MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35773 , Dated 1942-11-03 , Download #35773
74190B le B MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35503 , Dated 1942-03-27 , Download #35503
80095Flight Lieutenant John MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36276 , Dated 1943-12-03 , Download #36276
80095778435 John MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35208 , Dated 1941-07-04 , Download #35208
80095MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35565 , Dated 1942-05-19 , Download #35565
100149James MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35228 , Dated 1941-07-25 , Download #35228
100149James MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35260 , Dated 1941-08-29 , Download #35260
100149J MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35765 , Dated 1942-10-27 , Download #35765
1035711265546 John Gothorp MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35273 , Dated 1941-09-12 , Download #35273
103571J G MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35709 , Dated 1942-09-15 , Download #35709
103571J G MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36447 , Dated 1944-03-28 , Download #36447
108588867339 Henry Holt MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35350 , Dated 1941-11-18 , Download #35350
108588H H MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35801 , Dated 1942-11-24 , Download #35801
108588H H MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35615 , Dated 1942-06-30 , Download #35615
109547Christopher MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35366 , Dated 1941-12-02 , Download #35366
109547C MUSGRAVE A F CLondon Gazette issue : 35845 , Dated 1943-01-01 , Download #35845
109547C MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35398 , Dated 1941-12-30 , Download #35398
111268Cpls 1352232 Guy Musgrave HUGHESLondon Gazette issue : 35426 , Dated 1942-01-20 , Download #35426
111946Squadron Leader John Raymond MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 37099 , Dated 1945-05-25 , Download #37099
111946John Raymond MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35398 , Dated 1941-12-30 , Download #35398
111946J R MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36254 , Dated 1943-11-16 , Download #36254
111946J R MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36866 , Dated 1945-01-01 , Download #36866
111946R MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 35809 , Dated 1942-12-01 , Download #35809
115795Fit Lt M I MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36549 , Dated 1944-06-02 , Download #36549
115795983539 Maurice Ivor MUSGRAVELondon Gazette issue : 35467 , Dated 1942-02-24 , Download #35467
115795M I MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36175 , Dated 1943-09-14 , Download #36175
1288781315413 John Musgrave KEYLondon Gazette supplement : 35777 , Dated 1942-11-06 , Download #35777
1411981271526 Robert Musgrave HILTONLondon Gazette supplement : 35992 , Dated 1943-04-23 , Download #35992
1424101768344 Guy Musgrave COLLINSLondon Gazette supplement : 36027 , Dated 1943-05-21 , Download #36027
160125710274 Norman MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36399 , Dated 1944-02-25 , Download #36399
160125N MUSGRAVE 1London Gazette supplement : 37389 , Dated 1945-12-11 , Download #37389
160125N MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36577 , Dated 1944-06-20 , Download #36577
169359I7I°536 Michael John Preston MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36451 , Dated 1944-03-31 , Download #36451
169359M J P MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 37017 , Dated 1945-04-03 , Download #37017
169359M J P MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36755 , Dated 1944-10-17 , Download #36755
1776011147409 William Geoffrey MUSGRAVELondon Gazette supplement : 36633 , Dated 1944-07-28 , Download #36633
2019111717991 Sydney Musgrave FISHERLondon Gazette supplement : 37482 , Dated 1946-02-22 , Download #37482

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Whirlwind OpsHugh, I have copies of 137 ORB for Feb/Mar 1942. Only problem is, there is no way of telling the nationality of the pilots, also no initials for first names, just rank and surnames. Feb 42. F/Lt Marsland. F/Sgt Mercer. Sgt McClure. Sgt De Houx. P/O Martin. P/O Haggberg. S/Ldr Coghlan. Sgt Rebbetoy. P/O Lawton. F/Lt Woodward. P/O Torrence. F/Sgt Luing. Sgt Ashton. P/O Jowitt. Sgt Brennan. F/Sgt Robertson. P/O De Shane. P/O La Gette P/O Wright. Sgt Sandy. P/O Van Schaick. Sgt McPhail. March 42. F/Lt Bartlett. F/Sgt Brunet. P/O Musgrave. P/O Samant. ....Read More.AlanW on 1st December 2007 12:08:48
Whirlwind OpsHello to all, [QUOTE=Decobeck;1152]Hi Jerry, Thanks for the correction concerning the claim by Rebbetoy. I have another 137 Sqn Whirlwind crash in Belgium : W/O A. I. Doig made a wheels up landing at Roesbrugge-Haringe on 23/1/1943 (Whirlwind I P7054/SF-?). The aircraft was hit by the Flak from Poperinge. Do you know the individual code letter of this aircraft and the first name of the pilot (POW) ? Rgds. Régis[/QUOTE] Can you confirm the crash of the Whirlwind in Belgium ? I have Police/gendarmerie reports about a crash in France that day, and very likely to be his. I also have his WO 344 file (not at hand 'cause I'm at the office now, but I'll check tonight, and he was captured in France, on 27th January (four days after he was shot down). There's also another Whirlwind crash in France on 23rd January 1943, P7095 SF-H flown by P/O A.E. BROWN. There are a few pictures of his forced-landed Whirlwind. He's buried in Ennetières-les-Avelin cemetery, just across the main runway at Lille airport (now). Re the list of pilots provided earlier in this thread, Musgrave was Royal Australian Air Force, and I asked his file to be digitised at the National Archives of Australia a couple of years ago, so you can have a look at it. He came down in the Channel at night in May 1943, his body was recovered on a french beach and subsequently buried at Pihen-les-Guines. Joss ....Read More.jossleclercq on 3rd December 2007 06:35:14
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400625 - Unaccounted airmen - 25-6-1940What caused the death of the following airmen, commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial and buried in cemeteries in Belgium and France. They may have been killed during evacuation to the U.K., some of them later recovered from the sea or their bodies washed ashore. AC1 Reginald F. ABRAMS - 621850 - 4 Sqn - Runnymede Panel (RP) 24 AC1 William ALSTON - 637973 - RP24 AC1 Eustace T. ARNOTT - 532387 - RP24 AC1 Bernard O. BECKINGTON - 901322 - RP24 AC2 John R. BEST - 749226 - RP26 AC1 Ernest R. BIDDLE - 942880 - RP24 AC2 Sidney A. BIRD - 922154 - RP26 Cpl Geoffrey G. BURDETT - 520421 - RP21 LAC Arthur G. CHILD - 616033 - RP22 AC1 Richard CLEARY - 631845 - RP25 (from Irish Republic) AC1 Joseph CURRIE - 634350 - RP25 LAC Alexander J. DONAGHY - 544946 - RP22 AC1 Alexander C. FLEMING - 743827 - RP25 Cpl James P. GAVINS - 512854 - RP21 LAC Harold W.E. HANSON - 517631 - 4 Sqn - RP23 LAC Dudley G. KEMP - 535214 - RP23 LAC Edgar MARTIN - 633385 - RP23 AC2 Thomas MASON - 549132 - RP27 Cpl Stanley MILLS - 570908 - 13 Sqn - RP22 AC1 Cunningham MUNN - 627591 - RP25 AC1 Arthur MUSGRAVE - 653443 - RP25 AC1 Douglas H. RICHARDSON - 550743 - 98 Sqn - RP25 AC1 George T. RIDLEY - 629767 - RP25 AC1 John M. ROBERTS - 634663 - RP26 LAC George SWIFT - 551391 - RP24 LAC George H. TAYLOR - 352704 - RP24 AC1 Charles J. TELFORD - 627498 - RP26 AC1 Leslie C. THORP - 633277 - RP26 Cpl Albert E. THORPE - 326629 - RP22 LAC George TROTH - 62712 - RP24 AC1 Douglas C. WEBB - 966677 - RP26 LAC Ernest E. WHEELER - 628716 - 53 Sqn - RP24 LAC Victor J. WHITE - 352129 - RP24 LAC Sydney V. WILMINGTON - 610598 - RP24, and the following airmen buried in Belgium/France: Lombardsijde Churchyard, Belgium (BEL62): AC1 Allan J. MORAN - 623447 Lille Southern Cem., Dept. Nord, France (FR2): AC2 Alfred W. GILBERT - 636979 Abbeville Communal Cem. Ext., Dept Somme, France (FR440): LAC Edward A. HALL - 510251 Doingt Communal Cem. Ext., Dept Somme, France (FR472): LAC Leonard LAURIE - 799685 - 63 Wing Servicing Unit Angoulins Communal Cem., Dept. Charente-Maritime, France (FR1632): LAC James T. McMASTER - 538667 Chatelaillon Plage Communal Cem., Dept. Charente-Maritime, France (FR1635): AC2 Samuel J. McCONNELL - 632203 Regards and thanks for your help. Henk. ....Read More.Henk Welting on 8th January 2008 12:39:59
400625 - Unaccounted airmen - 25-6-1940Hello Henk, Finally I came through the whole list. Below you will find details about all the mentioned names. AC1 Reginald F. ABRAMS - 621850 - 4 Sqn - Runnymede Panel (RP) 24 / 4 Sqdn AC1 William ALSTON - 637973 - RP24 / HQ Base Area AC1 Eustace T. ARNOTT - 532387 - RP24 / 51 Wing AC1 Bernard O. BECKINGTON - 901322 - RP24 / HQ BAFF AC2 John R. BEST - 749226 - RP26 / 2 BA AC1 Ernest R. BIDDLE - 942880 - RP24 / HQ BAFF AC2 Sidney A. BIRD - 922154 - RP26 / 5 R and SU Cpl Geoffrey G. BURDETT - 520421 - RP21 / HQ BAFF LAC Arthur G. CHILD - 616033 - RP22 / 81 Wing SF AC1 Richard CLEARY - 631845 - RP25 (from Irish Republic) / 2 BA AC1 Joseph CURRIE - 634350 - RP25 / BAFF LAC Alexander J. DONAGHY - 544946 - RP22 / 21 AD AC1 Alexander C. FLEMING - 743827 - RP25 / 2 BA Cpl James P. GAVINS - 512854 - RP21 / 3 ASP LAC Harold W.E. HANSON - 517631 - 4 Sqn - RP23 / 4 Sqdn LAC Dudley G. KEMP - 535214 - RP23 / 2 BA LAC Edgar MARTIN - 633385 - RP23 / 25 Sqdn AC2 Thomas MASON - 549132 - RP27 / 7 ASP Cpl Stanley MILLS - 570908 - 13 Sqn - RP22 / 13 Sqdn AC1 Cunningham MUNN - 627591 - RP25 / HQ BAFF AC1 Arthur MUSGRAVE - 653443 - RP25 / 2 BA AC1 Douglas H. RICHARDSON - 550743 - 98 Sqn - RP25 / 98 Sqdn AC1 George T. RIDLEY - 629767 - RP25 / 2 AR & SV AC1 John M. ROBERTS - 634663 - RP26 / HQ BAFF LAC George SWIFT - 551391 - RP24 / 21 AD LAC George H. TAYLOR - 352704 - RP24 / 2 BA AC1 Charles J. TELFORD - 627498 - RP26 / HQ BAFF AC1 Leslie C. THORP - 633277 - RP26 / HQ BAFF Cpl Albert E. THORPE - 326629 - RP22 / HQ 2 BA LAC George TROTH - 62712 - RP24 / 3 AR & SU AC1 Douglas C. WEBB - 966677 - RP26 / 21 AD LAC Ernest E. WHEELER - 628716 - 53 Sqn - RP24 / 53 Sqdn LAC Victor J. WHITE - 352129 - RP24 / 1 ASP LAC Sydney V. WILMINGTON - 610598 - RP24, / Spelled WILLMINGTON / 2 BA and the following airmen buried in Belgium/France: Lombardsijde Churchyard, Belgium (BEL62): AC1 Allan J. MORAN - 623447 / HQ 51 Wing Lille Southern Cem., Dept. Nord, France (FR2): AC2 Alfred W. GILBERT - 636979 / HQ CFF Abbeville Communal Cem. Ext., Dept Somme, France (FR440): LAC Edward A. HALL - 510251 / 20 ASP Doingt Communal Cem. Ext., Dept Somme, France (FR472): LAC Leonard LAURIE - 799685 - 63 Wing Servicing Unit / 63 FWS Angoulins Communal Cem., Dept. Charente-Maritime, France (FR1632): LAC James T. McMASTER - 538667 / HQ BAFF Chatelaillon Plage Communal Cem., Dept. Charente-Maritime, France (FR1635): AC2 Samuel J. McCONNELL - 632203 / Numbered 632206 / 2 BA Best regards Finn Buch ....Read More.Argus on 8th January 2008 04:53:46
Air Force List (inter war years) availability, south east EnglandAlready done Dave. There are 52 Inter War Met course attendees listed. Two are listed as having been awarded the AFC. Two are listed as having been awarded the DFC. Having eliminated Harris my next tack would be Lance Browning. A dump of my Inter War database for filtered for Met is appended. I leave formating to the individuals. Regards Ross Service No Surname Initials F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 MRAF ACM AM AVM AC G/C W/C S/L F/L F/O P/O Acting P/O W/O Branch Courses Title/Decorations/Rank AAF AAF Date RAFO RAFO Date RAFVR RAFVR Date Special R Special R Date AAFRO AAFRO Date POW Killed 73938 Bell J John 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 74280 Bill L S Leonard Stanley 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73758 Boyden C J Charles James 25 August 1939 General Met No No Yes 25 August 1939 No No No 03155 Bradley H F Horace Frederic 01 July 1924 01 April 1918 General Met No No No No No No 74814 Bradshaw N W Norman William 04 December 1939 General Met No No No No No No Britton C E Charles Ernest 13 June 1939 General Met No No Yes 13 June 1939 No No No Browning L H Lance Harold 01 January 1923 01 April 1918 General Met MC, DFC (LG 12/07/1920) No No No No No No 06241 Bryant R C Rupert Chandos 01 January 1925 01 April 1918 General Met No Yes 12 September 1926 No No No No 73947 Crinson C R Charles Rowland 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 74815 Cripps K M Kenneth Major 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 74816 Crossley T Thomas 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73951 Elliott W J William John 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73757 Farquharson J S James Strachan 25 August 1939 General Met No No Yes 25 August 1939 No No No 73954 Fleming R A Robert Angus 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73759 Forsdyke A G Arthur George 25 August 1939 General Met No No Yes 25 August 1939 No No No 73760 Franks J A John Arthur 25 August 1939 General Met No No Yes 25 August 1939 No No No 74817 Garton W R S William Reginald Stephen 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 74818 Gummer H J Herbert John 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73960 Hall G W George William 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73761 Hanks H Harry 25 August 1939 General Met No No Yes 25 August 1939 No No No 73962 Hann S F Stanley Frank 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No 73963 Hardy V H Victor Hardy 15 January 1940 General Met No No No No No No ....Read More.Ross_McNeill on 29th February 2008 02:31:40
photo PL-19717 403 & 421 sqns line up 1943Seated on ground: Sergeant James R. MacKinnon (Winnipeg), F/O Livingstone Foster (Grimsby, Ontario), F/L Charles R. Thornton (Detroit, Michigan), F/L David Goldberg (Hamilton, Ontario), F/O Philip C. Musgrave (Winnipeg), P/O Robert W. Isbistento), Sergeant Ivers R. Foster (Thornhill, Ontario), F/O John Drope (Regina), F/O R. Gordon Driver (Toronto) Seated on chairs: F/O J.P, Lecoq (Montreal), F/O John Hodgson (Calgary), F/O James Preston (St. Catharines, Ontario), P/O John Allen Wilson (Hamilton, Ontario), F/L Dean Dover (Mount Dennis, Toronto), F/L Noel John Ogilvie (Ottawa), F/L Frank E. "Bitsy" Grant (Brockville, Ontario), W/C J.E. Johnston, DSO, DFC, S/L Robert W. "Buck" McNair (North Battleford, Saskatchewan), F/L Robert D. Phillip (Toronto), S/L Normaqn R. Fowlow, DFC (Windsor, Nova Scotia), F/O John A. Orand (Wellesley, Ontario), F/O Henry P.M. Zary (New York City), P/O Jack Bamford (Hamilton, Ontario), P/O Nick B. Dixon (Sudbury, Ontario), F/O Daniel Kenneth Wilson (Brantford, Ontario) Standing: F/O Harry Dowding (Sarnia, Ontario), Sergeant Stanley Barnes (Toronto), Warant Officer Clinton E. Rae (Moulinette, Ontario), F/O Thomas (not further identified, from Montreal), F/L Arthur C. Coles (North Vancouver), P/O Paul K. Gray (Toronto), P/O Thurne Parks (Oshawa, Ontario), P/O John S. Hicks (Ottawa), F/O L.R. Thorne (London, Ontario), F/O Ralph W. Nickerson (Moncton, New Brunswick), F/L John N. Patterson (Ottawa), P/O Horace F. Packard (Montreal), F/L Roger C. Wilson (Toronto). On aircraft: F/L Herbert J. Southwood (Calgary), F/L Harry A. Patterson (Hamilton, Ontario), F/O Stanley W. Matthews (Winnipeg), F/O F/O James F. Lambert (Winnipeg), Sergeant Norman V. Chevers (Niagara Falls), F/O J.D. Browne (Florham Park, New Jersey), F/L Malcolm C. Gordon (Edmonton, Alberta), F/O Paul G. Johnson (Bethel, Connectecut), P/O Percy Alan McLachlan (Vancouver), F/O Alan E. Fleming (Sault Ste Marie, Ontario), F/O Walter S. Quint (Guelph, Ontario), P/O Karl R. Linton (Plaster Rock, New Brunswick), F/O Wilbert E. Harten (Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario), and F/O C. Guerard DeNacrede (Calgary, Alberta). ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 29th May 2008 02:38:28
Help please: 137 Sqdn Combat loss & French/German filesOn the night of 17/18th May 1943 F/O Eddie Musgrave RAAF of 137 Squadron was lost in the Gravelines area - presumably shot down by flak. I had the opportunity in 2007 to visit his grave in Pihen-les-Guines cemetery. Other than what is recorded here, and in 137 Sqdn's ORB, I have no further details on the combat. File Number 61/3/AIR – Enclosure 86A FROM: 11 Group Intelligence. AI/708 The following received from Manston. Composite Ant-shipping Patrol Report. 17/18th May, 1943 (A) 137 (B) 1 Whirlwind Bomber. F/O Musgrave (R.A.A.F.) (C) 0110 (D) Shipping Gravelines area. (E) N/A (F) Not known (G) 1 Whirlwind Bomber, F/O Musgrave N.Y.R. GENERAL: - Informed by Swingate of Pilot making second attack with cannon 0132 hours. Not plotted or heard of since. I would be interested in seeing what records the French/Germans might have that could shed any further light on Eddie's final operational mission and P7063 the Whirlwind he flew. Is there anyone who could please point me in the right direction? Thank you all in advance. Paul ....Read More.pfP7063 on 22nd September 2009 08:26:12
A1C Moran Allan 623447Other deaths that day on Runnymede include W Alston - HQ Base Area ET Arnott - 51 Wing BO Beckington - HQ BAFF JR Best - 2 BA ER Biddle - HQ BAFF SA Bird - 5 R & SU GG Burdett - HQ BAFF AG Child - 81 Wing SF R Cleary - 2 BA J Currie - BAFF AJ Donaghy - 21 AD AC Fleming - 2 BA JP Gavins - 3 ASP AW Gilbert - HQ CFF - Lille South Cemetery EA Hall - 20 ASP - Abbeville Communal Cemetry DG Kemp - 2 BA L Laurie - 63 FWS ? - hard to read unit name, buried Doingt Cemetery E Martin - 25 Squadron T Mason - 7 ASP R McCall - HQ BAFF JF McMaster - HQ BAFF C Munn - HQ BAFF A Musgrave - 2 BA GT Ridley - 2 AR & SV JM Roberts - HQ BAFF G Swift - 21 AD GH Taylor - 2 BA CJ Telford - HQ BAFF LC Thorp - HQ BAFF AE Thorpe - HQ 2 BA G Troth - 3 AR & SU DC Webb - 21 AD VJ White - 21 ASP SV Willmington - 2 BA Most I suppose were lost on ships I would have to guess. Other deaths that date on Runnymede and buried in France are affiliated to a Squadron but are also LAC - Sgt rank in most cases. ....Read More.dennis_burke on 28th October 2009 05:13:40
Wellington Down - Indian OceanHello, With the meagre morsels provided, might I offer the following: I think the unit involved might be No.621 Squadron. 621 Squadron lost a Wellington on September 6, 1944, that had to ditch with the loss of four lives: 182565 P/O George Gaston ATKINSON RAFVR + 177601 P/O William Geoffrey MUSGRAVE RAFVR + 1566713 Sgt Walter John Donald SMITH RAFVR + 1537663 LAC Alfred SWALLOW RAFVR + (All commemorated on the Alamein Memorial) I have no further details on this incident, and I am not sure if this is the aircraft involved. Over to the Forum. Col. ....Read More.COL BRUGGY on 17th November 2009 03:08:14
Sgt F A UpstonHe looks to be a passenger. From Cummings' "Though Without Anger": The aircraft departed from Gibraltar at 10.36 hours local time on a transit flight to RAF Lyneham. However, the aircraft did not arrive and was lost without trace. Errol Martyn records in his book "For Your Tomorrow" Volume 2, that the aircraft was attacked and shot down by fighters over the Bay of Biscay at 14.20 hours and that one of the attacking aircraft crashed into the sea during the engagement. Flight Lieutenant Geoffrey Thomas Raleigh Francis RAFVR Pilot Flight Sergeant Carlo Ernesto Ferro RCAF Co-Pilot Flying Officer John Stanley Renouf RCAF Navigator Sergeant Richard Price Marvin RAFVR Flight Engineer Sergeant Lloyd George Burry RAFVR Wireless Operator/Air Gunner Pilot Officer Richard Sidney Tedder Wireless Operator/Air Gunner Air Vice Marshal Robert Parker Musgrave Whitham CB OBE MC RAF Flying Officer John Gordon Green RAFVR Sergeant Frederick William Boustead RAFVR Flight Sergeant William John Hough RNZAF Pilot Officer Albert Henry Bowler RAFVR Pilot Officer Frank Stuart RAAF Flying Officer Owen Albert Smith RCAF Flying Officer Terence James Marriott RCAF Sergeant Wilfred Archibald Upston RAFVR Lieutenant Paul Seymour Skelton RN HMS Medway Lieutenant Colonel Lucius William Armstrong-MacDonnell Irish Guards Colonel J E Morin Free French Forces A ....Read More.Amrit on 7th December 2009 04:19:48
Help please: Coastal Command Ops 17th/18th May 1943On the night of 17/18th May 1943 F/O Eddie Musgrave RAAF of 137 Squadron was lost in the Gravelines area on a shipping recco - presumably shot down by flak. The following thread gives the current status of what I know about Eddie's loss. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=94376 It was suggested to me that some of this forums Coastal Command experts may be able to further my understanding of what transpired that night. Were there any CC Squadrons operating in the Gravelines area that night? And if so, what type of operation were they on? Eddie was shot down at about 0130 off the Gravelines area. It is possible that he sank the German Minesweeper M345. However, I have read two different versions of where it was sunk (both via a Google search - so it needs further verification). Thank you all in advance for your help. Paul ....Read More.pfP7063 on 29th January 2010 10:09:18
Help please: Coastal Command Ops 17th/18th May 1943Hi Malcolm, I think the question has more to do with whether or not CC followed up F/O Musgrave's report with an op of their own. Bomber Command apparently did not, nor does it seems did Fighter Command. Cheers, Mark ....Read More.mhuxt on 30th January 2010 07:23:10
Flt. Lt. M. Jackson DFC : RAFVR 296 Squadron : Earls Colne Airfield : March 1945Can anyone please help or have information about the following RAFVR Pilot who was a member of RAF 296 Squadron (38 Group) based at Marks Hall, Earls Colne Airfield, and took part in Operation Varsity, The Rhine Crossings, March 24th, 1945. According to records held at the National Archives RAF 296 Squadron were first up in the serial lifts that left from Earls Colne on March 24th 1945. RAF 297 Squadron (also based at Marks Hall, Earls Colne) followed. Records further confirm that RAF 296 Squadron Leader, Wing Commander, T. C. Musgrave, led this first serial lift (30 x Halifax Tug Planes x 30 Horsa Gliders x B Squadron, 1 Wing GPR). Second-up, who rolled 1 1/2 minutes behind Musgrave was:- RAFVR Pilot : Flt. Lt. M. Jackson. From personal WW2 letters written by my father it would appear that Flt.Lt. M. Jackson (Jacko) was a good friend. I believe Flt.Lt. M. Jackson was promoted in 1945 to Acting Squadron Leader and was awarded the DFC. Can anyone please help to confirm this. Thank you. Lindsay Aspin ....Read More.Lindsay Aspin on 14th July 2010 03:19:15
Whirlwind vs Fw190Good evening Gents. I'm hoping that one or more of you may be able to help in answering the following questions I have re Eddie Musgrave's combat against a Fw190A-4 of 8./JG 26 on January 28th 1943. Before asking my questions, here is what I have so far: [B]28th January 1943[/B] Low clouds restricted flying. The Third Gruppe were scrambled from Wevelgem shortly after 1100 as several enemy aircraft were reported headed toward the base. The base was indeed attacked – by a single No. 137 Squadron Whirlwind, piloted by an Australian, B. L. Musgrave. Only one pair of Fw 190s was in a possible position to intercept. Uffz. Heinrich Wälter had to attack from beneath but overshot, and passed in front of the Whirlwind. Reacting by instinct, Musgrave fired a quick burst from the Whirlwind’s four 20-mm nose cannon; the Focke-Wulf was hit and dived straight into the ground. The Australian pilot made good his escape in the clouds, but had no idea that he had hit the German aircraft, and filed no claim. The outcome of his combat, and the identification of his victim, only became known as a result of recent research. Wälter was flying Fw 190A-4, WNr. 5622 ‘Black 2’ He crashed between Dadizeale and Beselaere at about 11:08 am. (I believe that Uffz. Heinrich Wälter was buried at Bourdon (France) 32/8/135) [B]Source: The JG 26 War Diary, Volume Two 1943 – 1945 By Don Caldwell Page 21[/B] [B]14th August 1941[/B] Whilst climbing to try and intercept the aircraft of Circus 73, Ogfr. Heinrich Wälter and the other pilots of III/JG 26 were intercepted by the Spitfires of 315 Squadron (306 Squadron) escorting the Blenheims Wälter was flying Bf 109F-4 WNr. 7126 was hit and injured and had to bail out. [B]Source: The JG 26 War Diary, Volume One 1939 – 1942 By Don Caldwell Pages 165-167[/B] It also appears possible (from a source on the web that I forgot to copy the url and can longer find!) that Wälter flew against the Swordfish that tried to attack the Sharnhorst and Gneisenau on 12th February 1942. His claim was not confirmed. [B]137 Squadron’s ORB recorded the following:[/B] [B]28th January 1943[/B] P7005, F/O J.L. DeHoux 1035 - 1125, on a Rhubarb, found a goods train pulling out of a station. 6 miles south of Bergues. He gave the engine a 4 second burst of cannon, observing strikes, and then dropped 2 x 250lb bombs on it from 50’. On looking back, he saw a big cloud of steam coming from the engine. P7058, F/O E.L. Musgrave 1035 - 1140, on a similar trip, dropped 2 x 250lb bombs from 100’ on a goods train 1 mile south west of Tielt, and then attacked twice with cannon, leaving the engine enveloped in steam. Whilst pulling away from the second attack, 2 Fw.190’s were sighted about 800 yards away. 1 fired 2 bursts at F/O Musgrave, and then pulled into cloud. F/O Musgrave got in a short burst from 300 yards, using 2 rings deflection at the enemy aircraft before getting into cloud himself and returning to Base. According to Ed ....Read More.pfP7063 on 20th January 2011 04:59:01
ANZAC Day Memorial"For your Tomorrow, we gave our Today." P/O Colin Douglas Bell RAAF No.403317 KIA September 11th 1944 P/O Stewart Gordon Brannigan RNZAF No.404885 MIA August 11th 1942 P/O Maxwell Tylney Cotton DFC RAAF No.408204 MIA June 15th 1943 F/S Francis Leslie Hicks RAAF No.408207 KIFA February 18th 1943 F/O Edward Lancelot Musgrave DFC RAAF No.403528 KIA May 18th 1943 P/O Graham Natt Smith RAAF No.416719 KIFA March 12th 1944 F/O Robert Bruce Tuff MID RAAF No.409257 MIA February 22nd 1944 They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. And also Peter Alexander Ewing, Desmond Arthur Roberts and John Gates. All former pilots of 137 and 263 Squadrons RAF. Lest we forget. ....Read More.pfP7063 on 24th April 2011 06:31:47
1/10/1944 JP856 Typhoon Ib 183 Squadron F/Sgt.E.M.DennyHi Joss, Thanks for the info. I couldn't find him in the AIR 78 listing as E.M.Denny. This listing (AIR 78/45 first part) however contains Denney Eric Musgrave Lasenby 1318615, which must be the pilot in question. best regards Luc ....Read More.Luc Vervoort on 26th November 2011 10:48:27
Awards - Non-RCAF in RCAF unitsThe Air Force Association of Canada has carried (among other things) awards to RAF, RAAF and RNZAF personnel who were decorated for wartime services in Canada (as flying instructors, for example). To this has been added data on RAF, RAAF, RNZAF and some USAAF personnel who were decorated for service in RCAF units overseas. This material will be available using the following procedure: Visit the main Air Force Association website (http://airforce.ca/honours-awards/military-honours-awards Click on SEARCH TOOLS Enter a name you seek AND check off the appropriate group - in this case, "Commonweakth Air Forces Serving in RCAF during WWW II." A list of persons so entered appears below. By way of illustration of format, an entry like BEAUMONT, PO Philip - DFC - 440919 - 427 Sqn - Nav - indicates that Flight Sergeant Anthony George Abbott was awarded a DFC on 19 September 1944 for services in No.429 Squadronand and that his trade was that of navigator. ABBOTT, FS Anthony George - DFM - 441114 - 405 Sqn - WOP ADDY, Sgt Frederick - DFM - 450119 - 432 Sqn - FE ALDHOUS, WO BJ - Comm - 440101 - 33 EFTS- Canada ALDRIDGE, SL FJ - Comm - 450421 - 34 SFTS- Canada ALLEN, Sgt IBW - BEM - 460101 - 31 ANS- Canada ALLEN, WC W - MBE - 460101 - 1 Y Depot- Canada ALLISON, SL Wm Ezekiel - DFC - 430420 - 424 Sqn - (P) AMEY, FL JWT - AFC - 450421 - 36 SFTS- Canada AMIES, FS Robert John - MiD - 450101 - 434 Sqn - F2A ANDERSON, FS James - MiD - 440114 - 61 Base - F2E ANDERSON, FS JB - AFM - 430101 - 31 EFTS- Canada ANDREW, FO Philip Alfred - DFC - 431029 - 420 Sqn - BA ANDREW, Sgt John Francis - MiD - 450614 - 426 Sqn - FE APPLETON, PO Eric - DFC - 441006 - 429 Sqn - FE ARLETT, FL Ronald - MBE - 430528 - 34 SFTS- Canada ARMOUR, PO Wm John (AUS) - DFC - 450508 - 428 Sqn - (P) ARMSTRONG, FS Reginald Ragnor - DFM - 440815 - 408 Sqn - AG ARMSTRONG, FS Robert - DFM - 420414 - 420 Sqn - Nav ASHFIELD, FO Kenneth Thornby - DFC - 440512 - 415 Sqn - Nav ASHMORE, WO James - MiD - 440608 - 6 Grp HQ - WEM ASHTON, Sgt John Norman S - DFM - 430917 - 419 Sqn - FE ATKINS, Cpl Cyril - MiD - 420611 - 407 Sqn - Arm, cit ? AUTEN, WO James Robert - MiD - 440114 - 61 Base - WEM, cit ? BACON, Sgt EAH - AFM - 420611 - 34 SFTS- Canada BADGERY, FL Frank A (AUS) - DFC - 440915 - 431 Sqn - Pilot BADLEY, LAC DL (NZ) - Comm - 430302 - 12 SFTS- Canada BAILEY, FO John Brian G - DFC - 430611 - 431 Sqn - Trade ? BAKER, PO John Robert - DFC - 440606 - 432 Sqn - Nav BAKER, SL John - DSO - 440609 - 405 Sqn - * BALL, WC Benjamin - OBE - 430101 - 1 TCHQ- Canada BALLANCE-STUART, SL Fred* Wm - MiD - 440114 - 62 Base - Admin BANCROFT, Sgt George Arthur - DFM - 451207 - 405 Sqn - FE BANNISTER, FO Roland - DFC - 450413 - 434 Sqn - AG BARBER, FL CP - Comm - 430101 - 32 SFTS- Canada BARCHAM, FO Leonard John - DFC - 441205 - 404 Sqn - Nav BARNES, PO Arthur - DFC - 441117 - 431 Sqn - Nav BARRETT, SL GGN - AFC - 450101 - 1 CFS- Canada BARRON, FL Hubert James - Comm - 440901 - 112 Wing- Canada BARSHAM, ....Read More.HughAHalliday on 19th December 2012 07:02:37
159 Sqn Liberator damaged 23 July 1942Hi, Peter, The lack of 159 Sqn ORB records during part of 1942 is very frustrating. However, I do have some information on 159 Sqn's Benghazi shipping op of that date, from "Chocks Away!", the memoir of W/Cdr J. Leighton Beck DFC & Bar. And also from the paperwork for his recommendation for a DSO, downgraded to a Bar to his DFC. He was a S/Ldr and Flight Commander on 159 Sqn in the Middle East and then India. From his memoir: [I]Daylight missions were very different. We had no fighter air cover so we flew in formation to give mutual support in fire power. To get under the German radar screen we flew low down the Med or down the Quattara Depression (a vast stretch of land below sea-level which ran westward for hundreds of miles south of the coastal strip) then at the last minute we would climb as rapidly as possible to bombing height for the final attack. We could not escape detection as we neared the target and it was sickening to have to witness the fighters taking off from their desert air strips as we approached. Meantime the ring of anti-aircraft defences were being manned to put up a terrific barrage over our target. This happened on 23rd July, 1942 on one of my sorties against shipping and port installations at Benghazi in Libya. We had flown for six hours 100 ft up over the bottom of the Quattara Depression and climbed up to 18,000 ft south of Benghazi and at that height I could see the fighters taking off to attack us. Then way above us on our run up to the docks I saw a formation of American Liberators attack right in front. They had supercharged engines so could fly at 32,000 ft out of flak range (their Nordyn bombsight was better than ours in the RAF) and I was amazed to see a large cargo ship in the docks receive a direct hit. It just exploded upwards and outwards with complete destruction. We were all tensed up in my formation naturally and on the approach it was like watching a film in slow motion. The noise of the engines blanked out most sounds except directions “left left” or “right right” from the bomb aimer or information from the gunners of fighter activity on the intercom system when the ME 110 attacked on the run up to the docks. Then all hell was let loose as we flew through the dense flak barrage. I could hear the crump, crump of shells exploding all around us and see the black puffs of smoke. The sound is somewhat like heavy doors being slammed shut at the end of an echoing corridor at each burst. Then “bombs away” and shortly after the formation’s bombs were seen to hit the docks and shipping given over the intercom by my rear gunner. As soon as we were clear of the target I could feel that my aircraft had received some damage but had no time to check as we were immediately attacked by three fighters. An ME 109, a ME110* and an Italian Macchi 200. My fighter direction officer Flt. Lt. Dalton was already in the astro-dome giving me information as to where each fighter was co ....Read More.Matt Poole on 5th August 2014 09:30:11
450402 - Unaccounted Airmen - 02-04-1945Hello, 450402 - Unaccounted Airmen - 02-04-1945 From Henk's List - GERMANY BALL, Harold Herbert - LAC - 1358407 - RAFVR - Reichswald Forest War Cemetery, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany. NETHERLANDS FORDHAM, Samuel Bernard - LAC - 2248679 - RAFVR - Venray War cemetery, Limburg, Netherlands. UK BODDY, John - AC1c - 2213860 - RAFVR - 50 Sqdn - South Shields (Harton) Cemetery, Durham. DEVER, William Kenneth - F/S(A/G) - 2210113 - RAFVR - Prescot (St. mary) Churchyard, Lancashire - [ Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. FRANCIS, John Cecil - F/L - 138492 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. JACKSON, John - F/O - 164797 - RAFVR - Runnymede Memorial, Surrey. From CWGC & Geoff's sites - BANGLADESH LAMBERT, Malcolm Kinsbury - F/S (Pilot) - 1396634 - RAFVR - Chittagong War cemetery, Bangladesh. UK ALLAN, Henry Gordon - Sgt (Nav) - 1807338 - RAFVR - Carlisle (Dalston Road) Cemetery, Cumberland - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. BUCK, Herbert Arnold - F/L (Pilot) - 120985 - RAFVR - Stretford Cemetery, Lancashire. COOLEY, William George - Sgt(Pilot) - 1617503 - RAFVR - Leytonstone (St. Patrick's) Roman Catholic Cemetery, Essex - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. FLINDALL, Gerald Arthur - F/S (Flt/Engr) - 1804162 - RAFVR - Cambridge City Cemetery, Cambridgeshire - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. GREVETT, Charles Edward - Sgt (A/G U/T) - 1868476 - RAFVR - Lower Gravenhurst (St. Mary) Churchyard, Bedfordshire - [ Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. JOHNSON, Henry Alfred - Sgt(A/G) - 1874143 - RAFVR - Edmonton Cemetery, Middlesex - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. KNIGHT, Reginald Leslie Thomas - F/S (WoP-A/G) - 1271238 - RAFVR - Cambridge City Cemetery, Cambridgeshire - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. LANGFORD, Norman - Sgt(A/G) - 2216243 - RAFVR - Hindley Cemetery, Lancashire - [ Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. MUSGRAVE, Maurice - Sgt(A/G U/T) - 1593362 - RAFVR - Scarborough (Woodlands) Cemetery, Yorkshire - [ Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. OUTTERSON, George Alexander - F/O(Air Bomber) - 154243 - RAFVR - Jedburgh (Castlewood) Cemetery, Roxburghshire - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. SHEPPARD, Francis Edward - F/L (Pilot) - 124546 - D.F.C - RAFVR - Tottenham Cemetery, Middlesex - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. WALLS, Bertram James - F/O (Pilot) - 159851 - RAFVR - Cambridge City Cemetery, Cambridgeshire - [ Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. WIGHTMAN, John - AC1c - 2214447 - RAFVR - Blackpool (Carleton) cemetery, Lancashire. Alex ....Read More.Alex Smart on 9th February 2015 12:06:55
450402 - Unaccounted Airmen - 02-04-1945Hi GERMANY BALL, Harold Herbert - LAC - 2807 Sqn RAF Regiment. NETHERLANDS FORDHAM, Samuel Bernard - LAC - 83 Group. BANGLADESH LAMBERT, Malcolm Kinsbury - F/S (Pilot) - 221 Group Comm Sqn. UK BODDY, John - AC1 - 2213860 - RAFVR - 50 Sqdn - not Eng/Wales?. DEVER, William Kenneth - F/S(A/G) - Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. FRANCIS, John Cecil - F/L - probably killed whilst flying in Mosquito VI, HR448 of No 8 (C) OTU, which failed to return from an exercise. JACKSON, John - F/O -see Francis. ALLAN, Henry Gordon - Sgt (Nav) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. BUCK, Herbert Arnold - F/L (Pilot) - registered in Chipping Norton. COOLEY, William George - Sgt(Pilot) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. FLINDALL, Gerald Arthur - F/S (Flt/Engr) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. GREVETT, Charles Edward - Sgt (A/G U/T) - Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. JOHNSON, Henry Alfred - Sgt(A/G) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. KNIGHT, Reginald Leslie Thomas - F/S (WoP-A/G) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. LANGFORD, Norman - Sgt(A/G) - Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. MUSGRAVE, Maurice - Sgt(A/G U/T) - Wellington X - LN159 - 29 OTU ]. OUTTERSON, George Alexander - F/O(Air Bomber) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. SHEPPARD, Francis Edward - F/L (Pilot) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. WALLS, Bertram James - F/O (Pilot) - Lancaster I - HK655 - 1651 HCU ]. WIGHTMAN, John - AC1 -died from injuries in the RAF Hospital Cosford sustained on 25 Mar 1945 when Typhoon IB, MN236 of No 55 OTU, crashed into the crew room of a dispersal hut whilst making an attempted forced landing on the airfield at Aston Down. Malcolm ....Read More.malcolm_raf on 9th February 2015 05:03:50
Pathfinder questionIf you google 'visual centerer' there is a link to a book on Dresden which gives a brief description of the duties. Basically dropping skymarkers over the run in to the target area. Paul H. I have an extract on Pathfinder Techniques taken from 'Pathfinder Force, A History of 8 Group'. Gordon Musgrave, 1976, that may be useful. Send me a mail and I'll forward a copy. ....Read More.paulh on 31st March 2015 11:31:54
ANZAC Day - 25 April 2016"They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them." In memory of: P/O Colin Douglas Bell RAAF 403317 KIA 11/9/44 P/O Stewart Gordon Brannigan RNZAF 404885 MIA 11/8/42 P/O Maxwell Tylney Cotton DFC RAAF 408204 MIA 15/6/43 W/O Peter Alexander Ewing RAAF 403326 Died 1975 W/O John Gates RAAF 409401 Died 2009 F/Sgt Francis Leslie Hicks RAAF 408207 KIFA 18/2/43 F/O Edward Lancelot Musgrave DFC RAAF 403528 KIA 18/5/43 F/O Desmond Arthur Roberts RNZAF 411994 Died 1970 P/O Graham Natt Smith RAAF 416719 KIFA 12/3/44 P/O Robert Bruce MID RAAF 409257 MIA 22/2/44 F/O Robert James Sim RNZAF 403995 MIA 15/6/43 Lest we forget. Paul ....Read More.pfP7063 on 24th April 2016 09:09:58
Survivor of AL560 Lib crash, 159 Sqn, 12 Aug 1943?Exxxxxxxxcellent, Errol! Just what I was looking for. I've been editing/expanding the wartime memoir of Bill Kirkness DFM, a wireless op/air gunner on 159 Sqn in '43 and '44, though he thought everyone died in the crash. I have updated the memoir accordingly. Am in the process of shopping it around to publishers...a long, slow journey. Hopefully it will be a printed book one day -- it's a darn fine memoir. I found Gristwood in both Airplane and Flight magazines from Nov '43, and the service number given in Airplane matches the number you provided, Errol. Yes! Here is the excerpt from the Kirkness memoir: [I]On the morning of 12 August, Liberator AL560 was scheduled to be flown on [/I][I]a bombing practice exercise skippered by an experienced Canadian pilot, Fg [I]Off. Stan Pettingale. Aboard were six other airmen plus one passenger, ground [I]crewman LAC David Cooper, who regarded AL560 as his baby and wanted to [I]display his confidence by flying in her.[/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]Almost immediately after take-off the port inner engine was shut down and the [/I][I]propeller feathered. No smoke was visible. Having made a circuit in order to get [I]down quickly on three engines, Fg Off. Pettingale, approaching the runway much [I]too fast, misjudged the landing and had to overshoot. Gaining a little height, he [I]went around again on a more sedate circuit and seemed to be setting up for a [I]good landing. [/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]Something terribly wrong was evident. The Liberator gradually sank in a [/I][I]nose-up attitude, stalled far short of the runway, impacted a tree and came to rest [I]in a paddy field about a mile and a half from the aerodrome.[/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]The drama sickened all who witnessed the tragedy. The forward fuselage was [/I][I]shattered, and six bodies were strewn on the ground. It seemed that there could [I]be no survivors, but the rear gunner, FS Gristwood, though injured in his turret, [I]was the miraculous exception. He was even removed from the dangerously ill list [I]at the Station Sick Quarters the following day. The funeral for the seven victims [I]was held at noon on the 13th at Midnapore Cemetery, south of Salbani.[/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]Stan Pettingale had been a popular member of the squadron and was [/I][I]particularly well-known to our crew, having been the pilot who converted John [I]to flying the Halifax the previous December back at Lyneham.[/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]AL560 had been with 159 Squadron since 1942 in the Middle East, and one [/I][I]experienced pilot, John Musgrave, then a flying officer, considered it a ‘wretched [I]machine’ with gremlins that confounded the best attempts by the ground crews [I]to eliminate them. The circumstances leading to the engine malfunction on 12 [I]August, sadly, went undiscovered.[/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I][/I] [I][I][I][I]Apart from the horror of the crash, many of the aircrew were ....Read More.Matt Poole on 12th February 2017 09:02:46
411129 - Unaccounted airmen - 29-11-1941Hello AC2 James GREEN - 1007141 - the PRONI website has the following record: [I]Green, James of 173 Fortwilliam Park, Belfast, Private, Royal Air Force died 29 November 1941 at Musgrave Channel, Belfast.[/I] Cpl John WALKER - 770198 - the Statutory Deaths Register on the Scotland's People website records that he died at about 8.50 a.m. within 'Buckton Field', situated in Newmains Farm, Dirleton, due to heart failure as a result of stenosis of the coronary vessels. Regards Simon ....Read More.wwrsimon on 24th September 2017 09:51:02

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