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    Default 8 Bomber Group over Ulm on 17/18 Dec. 1944

    Hi!
    Is there anybody who has access to the 8 Bomber Group ORB?
    I need the information about the number of aircrafts from its pathfinder squadrons despatched for the raid on Ulm on 17/18 Dec. 1944.
    Any help would be appreciated.
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    The RAF Little Staughton ORB says the following:
    "17.12.44 H-19:30 ULM:... 7 Lancasters of 582 Squadron, comprising 1 Blind Illuminator, 2 Blind Markers, 1 Blind Skymarker and 2 Visual Centrers and 6 Mosquitoes of 109 Squadron took off to mark the target. A total of 67 P.F.F. aircraft was required to mark the target for the main force of 260 aircraft of 1 Group."
    156 Squadron sent 10 Lancasters, 105 Squadron sent 6 Mosquitos. That accounts for 29 of the 67 Pathfinders involved. 405 and 627 (Pathfinder) Squadrons also participated. The other non-Pathfinder Squadrons involved include 153, 103, 101, 550, 576, 170, 12, & 626.
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    Thank you David!
    The 1 Bomber Group ORB gives the number of 265 Lancasters alloted to this raid of which 263 took off succesfully.
    Together with 67 pathfinders it gives the number of 330 Lancasters & Mosquitoes which took part in this operation.

    Middlebrook wrote about 317 Lancasters & 13 Mosquitoes that bombed Ulm that night.
    However he also gives the information about mere 2 missing Lancasters while I found 3 crashed aircrafts during that mission in Chorley`s "Bomber Command Losses"...
    Last edited by Grexx; 1st February 2011 at 19:05. Reason: .

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    Default Ulm Dec 17/18,1944

    Greg.. 405 Sq sent 10 aircraft
    1 Primary Visual Marker
    1 Blind Sky Marker
    3 blind Markers
    3 Blind Illuminators
    2 Visual Centerers
    Richard

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    Default Ulm December 1944

    35 squadron (Graveley) put up 10 aircraft.
    í10 aircraft carried out night raid against ULM. Weather 10/10ths cloud despite which TIís could be seen. The raid appeared successful and there were several large explosions.í

    I could list the 10 aircraft & crew if you want but it would take a little longer to look up and extract.
    My late fathers log book (w/op with 35 sqn) shows take off at 16.20 and duration of flight 6.hours 20 minutes. Their task was visual centerer.

    Paul H

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