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    Default Unaccounted airmen - 15-8-1940

    What caused the death of following airmen, killed on active service:

    Cpl George BAGE - 355733 - 26 Sqn (Lysander - West Malling, Kent), buried South Shields (Harton) Cem., Durham County (UK414);
    LAC George D. HULSE - 936159 - 26 Sqn, buried Wolverhampton Borough Cem., Staffordshire (UK6647), and
    AC2 Harold E. HURLEY - 913596, buried Kingswood (Holy Trinity) Churchyard, Gloucestershire (UK7116).

    No proposed aircraft losses save Lysander R2624 however assigned to the Free French (Engine cut while low flying, stalled and hit the ground, 2 miles S of South Warnborough (Hampshire or Surrey ??).

    Hawkinge, Lympne, Driffield (6 dead), Martlesham, Rochester, Worthy Down, Middle Wallop, and Croydon (5 dead) were attacked by the Luftwaffe. I've following casualties for Driffield and Croydon:

    Driffield, Yorkshire:
    LAC Bertram ASH - 944309 - 102 Sqn
    AC2 Arthur S. DAWS - 752795 - 77 Sqn
    ACW2 Marguerite H. HUDSON - 882414
    LAC Kenneth E. NEW - 567295 - 77 Sqn
    AC2 Eric OFFORD - 948296 - 77 Sqn
    AC1 John W.M. WUNDLE - 752773 - 77 Sqn

    Croydon, Surrey:
    AC2 Samuel ADAMS - 978511 - 111 Sqn
    AC1 Alfred G. COWLING - 749792 - 111 Sqn
    LAC John W. DELL - 610506 - 111 Sqn
    LAC Peter H. HALLEY - 517019 - 111 Sqn
    AC1 Bernard W. MILLS - 749734 - 111 Sqn

    Regards and thanks for your help.
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    Hi Henk
    George Bage,36, and George D Hulse,24 are both registered at Malling in Kent and W Malling is close by. It looks as though Harold E Hurley might be a 6th victim at Croyden as that is where his death is registered.
    Regards
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    Thanks Dick for info on these three airmen.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Default Lysander R2624 in August 1940

    QUOTE Henk Welting

    "No proposed aircraft losses save Lysander R2624 however assigned to the Free French (Engine cut while low flying, stalled and hit the ground, 2 miles S of South Warnborough (Hampshire or Surrey ??)."


    Hello Henk

    This Lysander RAF serial R2624 has also cropped up in other paperwork at Warnborough. I was wondering where you had noted it from, please? I presume the information originated from a Flying Accident Card. I could not find any reference in Robertson's "Lysander Special".

    RV [Friendly], Red & Amber Flares [Forced Landing signal], at Q1961 [Binsted near Froyle area, Hampshire] recorded by Winchester O.C., 15th August 1940. Which I presume is the Lysander, 2 miles S of South Warnborough.

    Regards Mark
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    Mark,

    The information on Lysander R2624 came from Air Britain's Aeromilitaria (Aircraft losses UK WW2):
    15.8.40 - Lysander I - R2624 - FFAF - 2 m S of S Warnborough, Surrey - FIG (flew into ground),
    confirmed by Air Britain's serial book P1000 - R9999 on page 112:
    R2624 - 613/FFAF - Engine cut while low flying; stalled and hit ground 2m S of S Warnborough, Hants., 15.8.40.

    Now see that Air Britain is talking of a S Warnborough "Surrey" and "Hants". !

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    Henk
    Thanks for the book source.
    Regards Mark
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    Henk
    Thanks for the info. I attach the following for anyone following this thread.

    According to the AM 1180 and RAF Odiham ORB the Pilot was Lt. Ezano who was unhurt on 15.8.1940. According to the AM 1180 the Unit was indeed the FFAF, the accident card blames the accident on a low flying contra. [contravention] and the Station to whom he was attached or flying from, banned him from further flying at that station.
    However, Lt. Ezano was carrying out circuits and landings according to the duty, so he would be low flying at times. This accident must have happened in Hants / Hampshire.

    Accident 2
    The 613 Squadron ORB Form 540 is missing for August 1940? However, the 613 Sqn Appendices confirms a separate Lysander crash on 16th August 1940.
    16.8.1940
    "Area A Donna Nook to Wash"
    "Area B Filey to Withernsea"
    "In Area B, No Enemy movement seen"
    "In Area A, plane not yet returned, last report by W/T, no movement seen"
    "It has been reported that a Lysander crashed in this area."
    "Phoned to Corps at 0800 hrs and to Northern Command for repetition to GHQ at 0800hrs"

    Regards Mark

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    Mark,

    The information on Lysander R2624 came from Air Britain's Aeromilitaria (Aircraft losses UK WW2):
    15.8.40 - Lysander I - R2624 - FFAF - 2 m S of S Warnborough, Surrey - FIG (flew into ground),
    confirmed by Air Britain's serial book P1000 - R9999 on page 112:
    R2624 - 613/FFAF - Engine cut while low flying; stalled and hit ground 2m S of S Warnborough, Hants., 15.8.40.

    Now see that Air Britain is talking of a S Warnborough "Surrey" and "Hants". !

    Regards,
    Henk.

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    An update for BAGE 355733 and HULSE 936159. The 26 Sqn ORB Form 540 has the following for August 15th 1940:

    38 enemy aircraft carried out high level bombing attack. New buildings damaged, aerodrome cratered. Menís quarters damaged. Two airmen killed.

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    AIR 81/1454 1940 Jan 01 - 1941 Dec 31
    Aircraftman 2nd Class H E Hurley:
    report of death in an enemy bombing raid on RAF Croydon, 15 August 1940

    Martyn

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    AIR 81/1451 1940 Jan 01 - 1940 Dec 31
    Leading Aircraftman G D Hulse:
    report of death in an enemy air raid on RAF West Malling, Kent, 15 August 1940

    Martyn

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