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    Default 1st request for help from a newby!

    Morning all

    and hello from a Sunny Northamptonshire (well for now anyway!)

    I am hoping for some help uncovering the circumstances around the details of a Coastal Command casualty I am trying to research.

    COATMAN, RICHARD ALFRED, R A, Flight Lieutenant, 84701, 179 Squadron Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve, KIA 12/07/1943

    He is remembered on the Gibraltar Memorial along with two other 179 Squadron men, with the same date. 179 where using Wellington's/leigh light equipped aircraft at this time. I thought the crew of a Wellington was 6? So maybe some crew members survived? Or where Wellington's on anti-sub duties ever flown with just three cew members?

    Thanks in advance for any information and Happy Easter to all members.

    Regards

    Paul
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    Paul

    Wellington LA971 Failed to return from op (They Shall Grow Not Old). Sgt. James William Heald & Sgt. Leonard Hocking commemorated on the Malta Memorial.

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    SGT Ronald Ernest Defroand is also a possibility for this a/c.

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    Thanks Gent's yes Sgt. Ronald Ernest Defroand and R103690 WOII Richard Clare Smith RCAF as well as Flt. Lieut. Richard A. Coatman all appear on the Gibraltar Memorial as 12/07/1943 and 179 Squadron.

    Any idea why Sgt Heald and Hocking would be commemorated on the Malta memorial and not the Gibraltar memorial?

    If they are all crew of LA971 is it safe to assume Flt Lt Coatman was the pilot?

    Thanks again

    Paul
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    Paul

    Malta Memorial/Gibraltar Memorial is a CWGC quirk. For some reason a casualty who was never in the Med is on the Malta Memorial. Similarly crews whose aircraft were lost without trace appear on different days.

    Smith is given as pilot in TSGNO

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    Gents thanks for the information so Wellington LA971

    Pilot R103690 WOII Richard Clare Smith RCAF
    Flt/Lt R A Coatman RAF
    SGT Ronald Ernest Defroand RAF
    (all on the GIBRALTAR memorial 12/07/1943)

    SGT James William Heald RAF
    SGT Leonard Hocking RAF
    (Both on the MALTA Memorial)

    Am I still missing one as I thought 6 was a Wellington crew? Did C.C. use a five man crew?

    I wonder if the u-boat history experts on U-boat.net are aware of a claimed shot down Wellington (or any depth charge attack resulting in a shot down aircraft unidentified on the 12/7/43).

    Thanks again

    Paul

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