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    Hi everyone,

    Could it be possible to find out where 2853 Sqd RAF Regiment was based on 11/6/44?

    And just another small question, what was 4 ADU based in Malta on 9/8/43?

    Again thanks in advance for any answers arising from the above.

    Steve.

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    Hi Steve
    Flying Training and Support Units since 1912- Ray Sturtivant and John Hamlin has No 4 Aircraft Delivery Unit as forming at Aziza on 25.5.43 and making various moves along the N African coast and by 14.11.43 to Bari and then on further into Italy. There is no mention of employment in Malta but a detachment is not impossible, although given the standard of the source one would expect it to be mentioned.
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    Hi Dick,

    Thanks for you reply on 4 ADU. I came across this entry whilst searching the CWGC's database for a Sgt Jack Wright (W.Op/Air Gnr), No 1314592 - Died: 9/8/43, his grave is in Malta (Capuccini) Naval Cemetery and his unit is described as 4 ADU.

    So not sure if he was delivering much needed aircraft to Malta or was just based there on detachement as you said.

    Also, thanks to everyone who replied to my previous thread, sorry the thanks is a little bit late coming but my grandson is not too well and it has occupied my mind as such but again thanks to everyone.

    Cheers.

    Steve

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    Source: For Your Tomorrow, Vol.2, page 127 (Errol Martyn):

    Baltimore IIIA serial FA173

    Crashed on take-off from Hal Far, Malta on ferry flight - 10.20 hrs. Also killed:
    F/O R.E. CHAPMAN - NZ402567 and F/Sgt D. CHRISTIAN - 1108283.

    Aircraft probably still on the strength of 21 (SAAF) Sqn before taken over by 4 ADU.

    Henk.

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    Steve,

    The full entry from 'For Your Tomorrow', Vol Two is:

    Mon 9 Aug 1943
    MEDITERRANEAN AIR COMMAND
    Delivery flight (to?)
    4 Aircraft Delivery Unit, RAF (Sorman, Libya - 216 Group)
    Baltimore IIIA FA173 - took off from Hal Far, Malta, at 1020, stalled and crashed. The three crew are buried on Malta.
    Pilot: NZ402567 Fg Off Robert Eric CHAPMAN, RNZAF - Age 29. 496hrs.
    The CWGC register incorrectly records the crew as belonging to 21 Sqn, SAAF, although it appears that the Baltimore may have been on the strength of the Hal Far-based Squadron prior to collection by the ADU.

    The following note will appear in Vol Three:

    p127; CHAPMAN, R E FA173 (code letter P) was indeed an aircraft from 21 Sqn, SAAF. The ADU crew were in the process of ferrying it to a maintenance unit for an engine change when it crashed. The CWGC register online now correctly shows 4ADU as their unit.

    Errol

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    Hi Errol and Henk,

    Thanks for the information regarding the loss of the Baltimore at Malta much appreciated.

    My database in much healthier for that.

    Cheers.

    Steve

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