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    Default 390910 - Unaccounted airman - 10-9-1939

    Looking for info on cause of death of Cadet Pilot Robert I. HOPKINS - 42601 (RAF from Canada) who is reported 'KOAS' (killed on active service) and probably died in a training accident; buried SS Mary & Andrew Churchyard, Whittlesford, Cambridgeshire.
    Regards and thanks for your help.
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    Death registered Cambridge


    Suggest 10.09.39 Tiger Moth II N6631 22 EFTS Cambridge CL

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    PS Henk this is a bBit back in time for Unaccounted airman (you are upto 1943) are you re-visting or finding a new source of queries?

    Paul

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    Paul,
    HOPKINS still was on my long list of airwomen/airmen unaccounted for. Gave it another try after Colin came up with his words in msg # 5 on thread "Rhodesia 20 SFTS - Oktober 1940" started by Oldduffer 16th July 2011.
    Waiting for next "Aeromilitaria" to continue with 8-8-1943.
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    Default 391009 - Unaccounted airman - 9-10-1939

    Paul,
    Found what went wrong and also made it more obscure using a wrong title for my thread. Air Britain has for N6631: Crashed on landing, Cambridge, 10-"9"-39; SOC 3-11-39 as DBR.
    CWGC and also "TSGNO" and "Canadians in the RAF" (both Allison) have for HOPKINS date of death 9-"10"-39, and for this date couldn't find a match in Air Britain Aeromilitaria. Air Britain correct and CWGC incorrect ? I'll stick to the CWGC and Allison info.
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    Gentlemen,

    The Form 1180 for the loss of Tiger Moth N6631 on 10 Sep 39, gives the pilot's name as Pupil Pilot MILLER and the card does not indicate that he was killed or injured. I have recorded the accident as 'non-fatal'.

    I cannot find HOPKINS recorded anywhere else in 1939 but it will be appreciated that the records are not 100% accurate.

    It is possible that Hopkins was killed on duty in an accident not directly related to flying or as a consequence of an accident which did not involve damage to the aircraft. There are also some accidents involving civilian registered aircraft which are sometimes not recorded. I shall dig further but it will take time.

    Colin Cummings

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    Gents,

    Hopkins' death is registered in the last qtr of 1939 which makes it possible (even probable) that he was killed in October rather than early September as already mooted. I was hoping that I would find the entry in the third qtr which would have put the issue beyond doubt.

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    Henk

    When did you get Service Number 42601 got Hopkins..

    London Gazette

    TUESDAY, 14 AUGUST, 1945

    Transfer to reserve.
    Fit. Lts.:

    M. H. HANKINS, D.F.C. -(42602).
    , D. J. HAMMOND (42601).
    HANSEN (42603).
    W. P. HOPKIN, D.F.C.

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    The undermentioned are granted short
    service commissions as Acting Pilot Officers
    on probation for six years on the active list.
    2nd Sept. 1939 :

    Peter Beckford GOUGH (42599).
    Lawrence Arthur Stafford GRUMBLEY
    (42600).
    Derek John HAMMOND (42601).
    Maurice Henry HANKINS (42602).
    Robert Haigh HANSEN (42603).
    Arnold Thomas HARRISON (42604).
    Stephen Jack HERRING (42605).
    William Pelham HOPKIN (42606).
    Patrick Allison Cathcart JACKSON (42607).

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    On CWGC Hopkin doesn't have a number, which may mean he was still classed as a civilian?

    Malcolm

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