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    Hello,

    In Air-Britain aeromilitaria magazine, spring 2008 issue, Spitfire I - fourth batch (part 3) : about the entry on R7065 presentation a/c Chelsmford.
    While with No. 57 O.T.U., on 3rd March 1943, after engine failed at 300 feet during steep turn, this Spitfire was force-landed wheels-up near Marston Cottage, Mitford near Morpeth, Northumberland. Category Ac. Pilot is stated as F/O F.E.A.F. Cheude Sleg, (FF), OK.

    We just can't find a Free French pilot with an ID close to the one stated by Air-Britain.

    Can someone with access to the OTU ORB, or the form 1180, or any other information, can point us towards a better ID for this pilot ?

    TIA

    Joss

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    HI joss,

    Only names of fatalities (3) are listed in the ORB and these are not dated or linked to any airframe.

    17 flying accidents are stated as happening in the month. Heavy landings (6)

    Only French death was that of Jean Nemoz on the 17th.

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    Joss , not much help i am afraid i have looked at the OTU ORB , and there is no mention of the crash ,
    sorry
    bw phill jones

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    As previously detailed but with addition of service No - F/O FEAF Cheude Sleg 108611 (FF).

    Does this give any clues ?

    Ian

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    Hello Ian,

    This service number is not for Free French. In 1940-1943 French Service Number for Air Force begun by 3xxxx or 4xxxx. I do not know this one.

    bertrand

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    Hello to all,

    Thanks for your inputs.

    I've seen the same informations in No. 61 O.T.U. records, only the names of fatalities are recorded. I had another Free French pilot pranging a Spitfire, and this doesn't shop up at all in the O.R.B.

    As R7065 was "repaired on site", I'm not surprised no details shows up.

    Bertrand and I will follow up the track of that service number. May be he could have been a Frenchman who directly joined the R.A.F.. They were not very common, but we have some cases.

    Joss

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    R7065 was a presentation Spitfire named 'Chelmsford' does Gifts of War have any other information ?

    Paul

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    Hi sorry I can't help with the pilot of R7065,

    However, its final flight was with 57 OTU on 19.06.1944, it collided with Beaufort W6540 of 54 OTU over Rayburn Lake, near Wingates Moor.

    I located both crash sites on 8th June 2011.

    Chris

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    from the POW list on this site

    9C 1783 Gheude S L E G 541 108611 RAF

    So his name is S L E G Gheude and he was in 541 Sqn

    So that makes him Belgian

    www.bamfbamrs.be/Dillien/OT-PILOT1920-1945.doc


    Serge Léopold Eugène Ghislain Gheude born 06.07.1917 Naissance à Molenbeek-Saint-Jean
    28.11.1936 Elève à l’Ecole Royale Militaire
    ......193. Sous-lieutenant
    09.12.1938 Ecole d’aéronautique
    11.07.1939 1er Régiment d’aéronautique
    03.01.1940 Elève-pilote 82b/83e promotion
    10.02.1940 Rayé
    06.03.1940 Observateur au 1er Régiment d’aéronautique
    26.03.1940 3e Régiment d’aéronautique
    13.05.1940 En France avec son unité
    07.07.1940 En Grande-Bretagne
    12.07.1940 RAF Depot Gloucester
    06.09.1941 ITW New Court
    17.01.1942 EFTS
    15.05.1942 2 ACDC Heaton Park, Manchester
    15.06.1942 32 SFTS
    05.11.1942 7 DRC Desford?
    15.12.1942 7 (Pilots) AFU Desford
    25.01.1943 57 OTU Hawarden
    03.05.1943 541 squadron PRU (Phot recce unit)
    18.12.1943 Abattu sur la Wesel et prisonnier de guerre des
    allemands
    09.05.1945 Rapatrié en Grande-Bretagne à RAF Station Cosford
    16.07.1945 PC Wittering Refresher School
    05.11.1945 30 Rest and Leave Centre
    24.01.1946 RAF BTS
    08.02.1946 350 squadron
    20.12.1946 BTS Base de transport et communications
    ......194. FAé Capitaine aviateur de réserve
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    Default Well done Paul !

    Hello

    You beat me to it Paul ! No spare time since my previous posting, and I'm glad you solved it.

    I was thinking about a Belgian pilot too, confusion can be easy.

    A perfect case of international cooperation, with the service number of the pilot helping to unlock the case.

    Now, what did they mean with F E A F ?

    Thanks a lot to you all.

    Joss

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