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    Default Wing Commander G.C. Clive, OTU58

    Hi,

    This pilot was the Wing Commander of OTU 58 in january 1943.

    I found nothing on him, does anybody know more on him ?

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    Bertrand

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    Hello,

    No G.C. Clive found in Maton's "Honour the Air Forces". I checked Malcolm's site on Air Commodores and above and he doesn't show up either, so may not have been promoted above Group Captain.

    Too many 'hits' with the London Gazette using the surname only, and I couldn't find him either in Flight archive.

    I haven't checked yet in "Aces High", "Those Other Eagles" and "Men of the Battle of Britain", hoping that one of these 3 books may mention him.

    I'm just wondering if that officer may have been R.C.A.F. or R.A.A.F. ?

    Regards

    Joss

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    Hi Gents,

    No.58 OTU ORB has the following entry for Dec 1942

    W/C Barton is succeeded by S/L C G C Clive DFC Comanding Officer at Balado Bridge. S/L Clive was promoted to the rank of W/C with effect from 29th Dec 1942.

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    Would he be C G C Olive,

    RESERVE OF AIR FORCE OFFICERS.
    GENERAL DUTIES BRANCH.
    The undermentioned relinquish their commns. on appt. to commns. in the R.A.A.F. Reserve.
    4th June 1943:
    Sqn. Ldrs. :
    C. G. C. OLIVE (39469).

    S/L in 1941 in LG
    Charles Gordon Chaloner OLIVE, D.F.C. (39469)-

    Can't match the W/C promotion however in LG
    Dennis Burke
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    Good spot Dennis!

    Looking futher back in the ORB has

    31/10/42
    His successor, who arrived today at Grangemouth is S/L C G C Olive, DFC from No.55 OTU.

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    If he was promoted to Acting Wg Cdr, then he wouldn't appear in the LG

    Malcolm
    Last edited by malcolm_raf; 10th October 2011 at 19:15. Reason: typo

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    Hello

    Good detective work Ross and Malcolm,

    I was really surprised that a Wing Commander in 1943 couldn't be found anywhere, no gong, etc...

    The original information used by Bertrand comes from a log-book, hence the wrong name.

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    Joss

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    Many thanks Ross and Malcolm for your replies. Even if the ORB wrote Clive as similar than in the document I have it was not possible for me to decipher the true Olive through Clive. RAF commands have the best detective to help those who are not very good with the Royal Air Force. Thanks

    Bertrand

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    Hello,

    There's an interesting short bio in "Men of the Battle of Britain", with a thumbnail portrait, and he's also in "Aces High". No mention of his posting to 55 OTU then 58 OTU in these books, so I'll be able to add some details in my 1999 copy of "Men of BoB".

    By the way, he was indeed an Australian, joined the R.A.A.F. pre-war, transfered to R.A.F. in 1937, re-transfered back to R.A.A.F. in 1946. Never went higher than W/C. Might be worth it to check if he has a file in the National Archives of Australia in Canberra, if you want to pursue the case further. E-mail me if you want the short bio. There's an hair-raising story actually

    Sadly he passed away in 1987.

    Joss

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    Default Wing commander g.c.clive otu 58

    Vol 2 of ACES HIGH , STATES LEFT 65 SQD ,IN MARCH 41,TO BECOME CONTROLLER AT Tangmere,until posted to form456 sqd ,in June ,He relinquished command of this unit due to ill health in march 1942,Posted to 81 gp , he joined 55 OTU as a supernumary S/L ,THEN MOVING TO 58 OTU ,In Oct to command the section at BALADO BRIDGE,
    iN Dec 42 promoted to Acting W/C, and o/c training wing at Grangemouth .from ACES HIGH VOL 2
    PHILL JONES

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