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    Hello Everyone,

    The above mentioned 119 SQn Catalina was lost on ferry flight on 25.09.42. It is stated that seven crewmen were lost with other Army, Navy and civilian passengers (FYT:I p 253). I was able to find 6 crewmen as follow:

    M.R. JEFFERY (RNZAF)
    L.E. MARJORAM
    H. NUTTALL
    E.E. ROBERTS
    F.E. VALE (RCAF)
    A.S. WATT (RCAF)

    Does anyone know the name of the seventh crewman?

    If anoyne knows further details on the passengers, I take this too...

    Many thanks in advance

    Phil

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    Hello,

    NZ404013 P/O (Nav.) Maurice Richard JEFFERY RNZAF +
    748259 F/Sgt ( - ? - ) Leslie Ernest MARJORAM RAFVR +
    1108410 Sgt ( - ? - ) Harry NUTTALL RAFVR +
    573897 Sgt (Flt. Engr.) Edward Elvin ROBERTS RAF +
    J/8634 P/O ( - ? - ) Francis Edward VALE RCAF +
    R/85487 F/Sgt ( - ? - ) Alexander Simpson WATT RCAF +
    J/7077 P/O (Pilot) Thomas Lindsay WRIGHT RCAF +

    Paymaster Lieut. James Haddon TURNER RN +
    Major Samuel Victor GREIG RASC +
    Mr G D MARCIL +

    See also:

    http://www.202-sqn-assoc.co.uk/files/autumn_2006.pdf

    Go to p.5 of 6.

    Others might be able to help more.

    Col.
    Last edited by COL BRUGGY; 27th September 2011 at 08:41.

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    Col,

    Many thanks for these additional details.

    Errol

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    Hello,

    There is one other aspect to the loss of FP119, that rarely receives an airing:

    It was a joint operation - Operation 'TORCH' - under the command of Generals Eisenhower and Alexander, with the Americans playing the lead role, and would involve close liaison with the French, who, following their heavy naval losses at Oran and Dakar after the Royal Navy's ultimatum and bombardment, were naturally sensitive about British activities in this sector of the Mediterranean. In return, the British were conscious of French insecurity, especially after a courier from De Gaulle's headquarters, carrying highly secret documents relating to "TORCH', was killed in September 1942. His Coastal Command Catalina aircraft had crashed off the Spanish coast near Cadiz and, according to the Abwehr's messages intercepted at Bletchley, strenuous efforts had been made by the enemy to recover his papers. Fortunately the attempt failed, but the incident highlighted the rather casual attitude of the Free French to a category of classified material which should never have left London.

    See:
    Secret War:The Story of SOE, Britain's Wartime Sabotage Organisation.
    West,Nigel.
    London:Hodder & Stoughton,1992.
    pp.131-2

    Col.

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    Google books gives passenger as:

    Deathly deception: the real story of Operation Mincemeat By Denis Smyth

    http://books.google.com/books?id=886Yt1j9aSsC&pg=PA6&dq=marcil+catalina+19 42+clamorgan&hl=en#v=onepage&q=marcil%20catalina%2 01942%20clamorgan&f=false

    Louis Danielou Clamorgan (aka C D Marcil)
    Dennis Burke
    - Dublin

    Foreign Aircrew and Aircraft Ireland 1939-1945
    www.ww2irishaviation.com

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    Great stuff! Thanks to all.

    Phil

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