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    Default 431105 - Unaccounted airmen - 5-11-1943

    Looking for info on cause of death of following RAF/BOAC airmen buried Halfaya Sollum War Cem., Egypt:
    F/Sgt (WOp/Ag) John BLACKSHAW - 1062305 - KiA - ex. BOAC (Filton);
    Sgt (Flt. Eng.) Joseph W. COPE - 1142711 - KiA - ex. BOAC;
    Sgt Cyril R. EDBROOKE - 1293327 - KiA - CWGC listed 38 Sqn;
    Radio Offr (BOAC) Percy ESTALL - age 31 - formerly served in RAF;
    F/Sgt (Nav.) Thomas R.J. HARRILD - 1333974 - KiA - ex. BOAC;
    F/Sgt (Pilot) Robert E. JOHN - 1027861 - KiA - GRO listed "S" Unit Filton;
    Capt (BOAC) Ralph MOUNTAIN - age 37 - from S.Africa;
    Flt. Eng. (BOAC) Douglas G. POTTER - age 29;
    Capt (BOAC) Joseph S. SHAKESPEARE - age 36, and
    F/Lt Paul R. TAYLOR - CWGC no svcnr - not listed GRO.
    Regards and thanks in advance for your help.
    Henk.

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    Henk,

    5/6-11-1943
    BOAC
    Sunderland III G-AGIB/ML729*

    Wing caught fire and broke away; crashed 130m S of Tobruk at El Taurub Tawaali, near Sollum, at night.

    * Crashed before Transport Command codes were allocated.

    OBITUARY.

    CAPTAIN RALPH MOUNTAIN.

    Captain Ralph Mountain of British Overseas Airways, whose death while flying in Africa is announced, was in 1937 awarded the Stanhope Medal for the bravest deed of the year. He saved the lives of three passengers when the flying-boat "Cygnus"** crashed on taking off in Brindisi harbour on December 5, 1937.

    The Times. Thursday. November 11, 1943. p.7

    ** Imperial Airways Short S.23 G-ADUZ.

    Col.
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    Col,
    Europe - Australia....an answer within hours on a thread ! Thanks for your much appreciated response.
    Regards,
    Henk.

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    Henk,

    I believe there was at least one other casualty on G-AGIB:

    1335056 F/Sgt (Pilot) Ian McGregor BURCH RAFVR (seconded to BOAC) + 5-11-1943.

    Buried Halfaya Sollum War Cemetery 5. B. 9.

    Col.
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    Col,
    Missed that name on my "unaccounted" list; will check and amend. Thanks.
    Henk.

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    In the interests of accuracy. 130 miles S of Tobruk is nowhere near Sollum. Sollum is about 78 miles ESE of Tobruk, just inside Egypt.
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    Any idea where I could find the servicenumber of F/Lt Paul T. TAYLOR, a casualty on Sunderland G-AGIB 5/6-11-43 ?
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    Henk, Hi,
    Try 51080. LG gives that as Paul Rowland Taylor (confirmed from http://www.pooleflyingboats.com/archive/Captain-Ralph-Mountain.pdf and on CWGC). The crash site is given as 30.22N 24.19E. This is in an area remote even by Cyrenaican standards!! It is 109 miles SW of Sollum, and 40 miles NW of Giarabub. The location problem was compounded by describing "El Taurub Tawaali" (translated as "the burying place a long way off") as being "near" Sollum. It is not.
    HTH
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    P R Taylor 51080 was still being printed in London Gazette as late as 1958
    Retirement.
    Squadron Leader P. R. TAYLOR (51080). 10th May 1958.

    he was
    571659 Peter Roser TAYLOR (51080). Commishioned in 1943.
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    One Paul Rowland TAYLOR was granted an honorary commission as a Pilot Officer wef 7 October, 1942.

    www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/35804/supplements/5222

    Not sure on the status of honorary officers in the RAF. Winnie was one, Lord Trenchard another. Were they allocated service numbers?

    Col.

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