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    The service records for our grandfather show that he was posted to "41 base" on 27th May 1944 after completing his training at 4 School of Technical Training (Flight Engineer).

    We understand that 41 base consisted of RAF Marston Moor and its satellites of Riccall, Ruffield and Acaster Malbis.

    We assume that he was at an HCU as he was posted to 35 Squadron Pathfinders in July 1944 as a Flight Engineer on a Lancaster.

    However, we can only find HCU's 1652, 1658 and 1663 at 41 base and they all were all flying Halifaxes.

    Can anyone throw any light on this matter; any help would be much appreciated as it is the last piece in the jigsaw

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    I think there is possibly a missing link here. However, there is also a possibility that your grandfather transferred direct to a Lancaster sqn without the benefit of a formal conversion.

    Do you have his logbook? If so you might be surprised to see how little flying he did before he got to the HCU. The Flight Engineer training at St Athan (4 SofTT) was done on synthetic trainers to a considerable degree. He then had only 6 or so weeks at an HCU before going to a Lancaster sqn. Is there any evidence as to where he met the rest of his crew, was he a replacement drafted to a crew who had lost the F/E and is there any record of his going to a Lancaster Finishing School or to the Pathfinder Training Unit?

    In truth, it was no big deal for a F/E to convert from a Halifax (possibly a Merlin engined version at the HCU) to a Lancaster I or III being operated by a line squadron. Do you have any record of his being awarded the Pathfinder badge?

    I always suggest that the Record of Service reveals an enormous amount about an individual and it well worth getting that as the basis of your research, unless you have already got it.

    There is a good book by Alan Cooper called " We Act With One Accord" which is a history of 35 Sqn and this will give some context to your grandfather's service.

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    Thanks for your reply ... we do have the service records which read 41 base (27/5/44), 35 sqdn (10/7/44), NTU (27/7/44), 35 sqdn (no date but we are assuming he did the usual 2 week navigational course).

    Where he linked up with the crew is unclear but we know that the officers in the crew joined 35 squadron on the same day as our grandfather so we are assuming that they were a crew by then (unfortunately the 35 ORB's say that the officers came in from 635 squadron but there are no records relating to them in any 635 ORB's - so we assume an adjutant error).

    Unfortunately, we do not have log books to refer to and the service records do not show the Pathfinder Badge being awarded. The crew were on their 31st sortie when they were killed (see our previous thread CA Butler, 35 Squadron) so we would have thought he would have earned it by then.

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    He certainly should have been awarded his PFF badge and certificate by that stage in his tour.

    Where are his medals? He very probably missed out on Aircrew Europe but he should have 1939/45 Star, France and Germany Star and the War Medal. Depending on when he joined the services, there might also be a Defence Medal awarded.

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