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    I seek whoever might be in possession of a copy of No.464 Squadron's Operational Record Book.

    I have recently arranged to have copied the log book of Flight Sergeant E.W. Cole, an RCAF air gunner who was with No.114 Squadron and then No.464 Squadron. He was killed on operations with No.464 Squadron on 4 April 1943 (Ventura AJ169). His log book does not show serials of aircraft but routinely aircraft letters. I do not know if the squadron records serials or letters or both, so do not know if what follows is new to anyone. For my part, I should like to match letters to serials (it is possible that AJ169 and "A" were the same throughout the period outlined below - but one should not assume that). In addition, I would like to know the ORB entries (both Forms 540 and 541) relevant to items following; in all cases his pilot is identified in the log book as "Sergeant Lush":

    6 December 1942 - Ventura "A" - "Operation of Phillips Radio Works, Eindhoven. Low Level. Very successful" (two hours 40 minutes)

    22 January 1943 - Ventura "E" - "Circus - Cherbourg Drome. Aircraft Damaged. Landed at Hurn" (two hours ten minutes)

    3 February 1943 - Ventura "A" - "Operation, St. Omer. Target obscured; bombs brought back" (one hour 50 minutes)

    13 February 1943 - Ventura "A" - "High level, Boulogne Harbour - Target obscured; bombs brought back" (two hours)

    4 March to 11 March 1943 - eleven sorties on Exercise SPARTAN. I doubt that the Form 541 has anything to say on this but would be interested in the Form 540 entries.

    22 March 1943 - Ventura "A" - "Operation recalled" (one hour 55 minutes)

    28 March 1943 - Ventura "A" - "High level formation attack on docks and shipping, Rotterdam; successful; heavy flak." (Two hours)

    29 March 1943 - Ventura "A" - "High level formation attack on docks and shipping, Rotterdam; successful in fairly heavy flak." (two hours 10 minutes)

    4 April 1943 - Ventura "A" - "Circus, Caen aerodrome" (three hours 45 minutes)

    4 April 1943 - Ventura "A" - "Ops, Rotterdam, missing"

    I would be particularly interested in the Form 540 accounts of SPARTAN. Any help would be much appreciated.

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    Hi Hugh:

    The 464 ORB (with both 540s and 541s) is available online at the National Archives of Australia site. Some months are missing, sadly it seems including December '42.

    http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/ResearcherScreen.asp

    Type 464 Squadron into the keywords field, then click on the Display button, then on the "Digitised Images First" on the screen which results.

    The one you're after is "Unit history of number 464 Squadron - September 1942 to September 1945".

    Make sure you click on the "Enlarge" button once you've opened the files, otherwise the images are too small.

    For 23 January 1943, Cole and Lush are identified as being on Ventura Mk.I AE732. The entry for February 3 1943 has them indeed on AJ169.

    Hugh, I still owe you information on Julius Meimberg, as I owe thanks to the German researchers who forwarded it to me. Real life has interfered in my Mosquito habit - though this time around I'm actually Happy with the work I'm doing, long may it continue...

    Cheers,

    Mark

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    Hugh,

    According to 'The Gestapo Hunters, 464 Squadron RAAF, 1942-45' by Mark Lax and Leon Kane-Maguire, Lush was:

    Sgt (possible Flt Sgt) Albert Leonard 'Bert' Lush, RAF No.1376013. KIA 4 Apr 43.

    464 suffered a single loss on this date whilst engaged on 'Ramrod R-7'. Lush was 'attacked by enemy fighters on the return and seen to ditch Mk II AJ169:SB-A. The mixed Canadian and RAAF crew all perished togethre with the pilots of two of the escorting Spitfires and anohter Ventura from 487 Squadron.'

    In a footnote, the authors add:

    The other crew were: Wt Off William Wallace Collens, RAAF No 401184 - Nav. b. Castlemaine, Vic - 12 May 14. Clerk. 464 Sqn - 15 Jan 43-4 Apr 43.
    Flt Sgt (possibly Wt Off) Eric Walter Cole, RCAF No R87628 - WOp/AG and Sgt (possibly Flt Sgt) Dudley Francis Fulford, RAAF No 406975 - AG. b. Perth, WA - 29 Jul 13. Carpenter and Joiner. 464 Sqn - 30 Sep 42-4 Apr 43.

    Errol

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    My thanks to Mark and Erroll are tempered with the reminder that "God punishes us by ansering our prayers". Having opened the links to the ORB of No.464 Squadron (which, doubtless, will lead to other RAAF unit diaries) I shall now be thinking of all manner of ways to use this valuable source and consequently spend much more time on the internet, forsaking foodm drink and human companionship.

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    For what it's worth my father, Leonard George Peake 416453 RAAF, wrote of the events on Sunday 4 April 1943.
    The Squadron did 2 ops today, but as our kite was U/S we did not go in either. No. 1 was on 'drome' at Caen, everyone returned, although some fighters got amongst them. No. 2 attack on the shipping at Rotterdam. Two kites failed to return, 1 of 464 and 1 of 487. Bert Lush and crew which included Doug Fulford and Eric Cole, who were rooming with me. I feel rather strange, Doug and I were good friends, having been together at Ballarat and [Port] Pirie, nearly two years. There was a slight chance that they may have ditched and got away in a dinghy. I sincerely hope so.

    Andrew Peake

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