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    A first post so my apologies if I've got anything wrong. I posted this query elsewhere a few days ago and was pointed in this direction. I wonder if this story rings any bells?

    "For no particular reason at all, at 11.00 yesterday 11.11.2011, I was in the churchyard of All Saints, Wimbish near to RAF Debden, as was. Amongst a little group of WW2 RAF graves was that of:

    WALKER, PETER LINGARD
    Rank: Aircraftman 2nd Class (Pilot)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Unit 17 Sqdn.
    Age:24
    Date of Death:27/06/1940
    Service No: 627496
    Additional information: Son of Edmund Lingard Walker and Trevora Dorothy Beauchamp Walker, of Paignton, Devon.

    (This from the CWGC record)

    It was “Aircraftman 2nd Class (Pilot)” that brought me up short.

    A reference to 17 Sqdn has subsequently given this:

    27/06/1940: Unauthorized flight, UK
    Type: Hurricane Mk 1 Serial number: P3778, YB-?
    Operation: - (Unauthorized flight)
    Lost: 27/06/1940
    Aircraftman 2nd Class (Pilot) Peter L. Walker, RAF 627496, 17 Sqdn., age 24,
    Took off from Debden, Essex. Unauthorized flight, crashed near Quendon Newport, Essex.

    So he didn't get very far.

    I've tried a fair few ways into this story but have had no luck so far. Does anyone have any background to this most unfortunate event? What the heck was he up to?"

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    Hi
    It is guesswork,but as he is described as AC2 Pilot, in CWGC and Sqn records,it may be that he had volunteered for aircrew,been assessed and selected for training but not yet posted to an FTS.He may have been already part of 17 Sqn in a non-flying job and was awaiting his move to commence his flying training,and took it into his head to try his hand at it with a Sqn a/c. I don't know if the RAF would have posted anyone to an operational Sqn to await further training but I would doubt it given that he died whilst the Battle of France had just been fought and the Battle of Britain was imminent and his possible future employment would not have been decided. His service is described as RAF not RAFVR and this suggests that he was a pre war entrant and his service number(from a list provided by Resmoroh who contributes to this forum) dates from March 1938 as a civilian entrant
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    I'm just wondering if the AM Form1180 for P3778 would have any info that could help.

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    Hi guys

    This incident is covered briefly in BLUE ON BLUE Volume 1, in addition to other similar incidents.

    Well worth a read!

    Cheers
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    Come on Brian a few brief details wouldn't hurt, rather than a plug for your book !

    Ian

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    Hi Ian

    Ah! You spotted my cunning plan!

    Actually, there is very little to add: P3778 crashed after being airborne for about 5 minutes. Burst into flames on impact.

    Blue on Blue is still a good read, especially with Christmas a'coming!

    Cheers
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    Hi Brian

    LOL. That was subtle! :-)

    Ian

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    As a brick.....:o)

    Might get the book anyway though!
    In fond memory of Corporal James Oakland AGC (RMP), killed in action in Afghanistan on 22 October 2009. Exemplo Ducemus.

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    Hi Ian

    I hope you are laughing with me and not at me!

    Baldrick is one of my heroes!

    Jonny

    Blue on Blue available from me for just £15.00 and free delivery to UK - for a limited period and to members of RAF Commands only. PayPal or cheque (gold ingots also acceptable!)

    briancullauthor@fsmail.net

    Cheers
    Brian

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    Drifting slightly:

    I am just recording an incident where a Tiger Moth T6267, of 18 EFTS Fairoaks, was stolen by a 17 year old boy with no flying experience. At 100 feet on the climb after take-off, it inevitably went wrong.

    Colin Cummings

    PS Date was 1 Sep 42
    Last edited by Oldduffer; 17th November 2011 at 06:43. Reason: forgot the date

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