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    Default 2 SFTS Oxfords: 1 September 1940

    Please can I seek help with a pair of Oxfords, serial numbers N4561 and N6286.

    These aircraft were apparently damaged in an accident at Brize Norton on 1 September 1940. However, I cannot find a Form 1180 for either of them and this suggests one of several things:

    a. They were involved in a collision (Forms 1180 for most collisions in 1940 are not in the microfilmed records at Hendon).

    b. The accidents were on a different date and the aircraft were merely struck off on this date and that is the date shown on the Aircraft Movements Card.

    Colin Cummings

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    Hi Colin

    I have one possibilty for this incident who was registered in Witney - Cadet GEORGE WILLIAM RYALL

    A-B states these two collided

    Malcolm

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    Thanks for that Malcolm. I had the name of Ryall but haven't worked out the 'Cadet' bit.

    I can understand a university cadet at an elementary flying school but would have thought that by the time one got to an SFTS, one's status would have been more firmly established in the RAF. I suppose he could have been an ADCC cadet and he was a passenger in the aircraft.

    Best wishes

    Colin

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    Hi Colin

    CWGC lists him as RAFVR from Canada so not ADCC.

    Malcolm

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    Also in Witney register for same date

    Deaths Sep 1940 (>99%)
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    McLa_n Malcolm 24 Witney 3a 2625
    Ryall George W 26 Witney 3a 2625


    which makes him

    Name: McLEAN, MALCOLM
    Initials: M
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Sergeant (Pilot)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Date of Death: 01/09/1940
    Service No: 742427
    Additional information: Son of George and Jeanie McLean, of Shawlands, Glasgow.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. K. (New Part). Grave 115.
    Cemetery: GLASGOW (EASTWOOD) CEMETERY

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    Paul,

    Those Registry Office records look suspiciously like a joint event and I shall pursue it further.

    Thanks for the additional information.

    BTW, things moving along apace. About the end of March 2012, you should be getting 'the letter' nod, nod, wink, wink!!

    Colin Cummings

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