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    The F1180 gives the Boston flown by Arthur as #42-33223

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    Sorry if this is a daft question, but does that mean it wasn't given an RAF serial...??

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    Baugher does not have #42-33223 but for #42-33224 he has


    33224 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.

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    Hello,

    42-33224 fell within batch HK960 to HK972, which were allocated to the RAF from USAAF stocks in the Middle East, and included:

    42-33208
    42-33215
    42-33216
    42-33224
    42-33232
    42-33270
    42-33280
    42-33290
    42-33293
    42-33303
    42-33313
    (Plus one unidentified)

    This still leaves one airframe unidentified from the batch of 13 !

    See:
    Air Arsenal North America:Aircraft for the Allies 1938-1945 Purchases and Lend-Lease.
    Butler,Phil & Dan Hagedorn
    Hinckley:Midland Publishing,2004.
    p.198.

    Col.

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    Could 42-33223 be the 12th or 13th unidentified airframe only 11 Serials listed - From Baugher

    42-33208 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33215 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33216 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33224 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33232 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33270 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33280 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33290 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33293 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33303 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
    42-33313 transferred to RAF from USAAF stocks. RAF serial (if ever allocated) is unknown by me.
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    Arthur's Boston was AL742.

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    Thanks, David.

    Saves a bit more time, and energy:

    Air Britain AA100 to AZ999 (p.87)

    AL742 - 72 OTU/12 SAAF/24 SAAF/18 - SOC 22.2.45

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    So we now know Arthur's Boston was AL742, code letter H, and was previously 42-33223.

    Many thanks to all who have supplied the info - I think Henk would be proud!

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    I believe that the wrong conclusions may have been drawn with regards to the Boston.

    AL742 was a Douglas DB-7B Boston Mk.III (Douglas C/N 3674). This aircraft never received a USAAF Serial, since it was purchased under Contract F-719 (French DB-73 Contract transferred to Britain upon French capitulation in 1940 - i.e. not Lend-Lease).

    It is possible that 42-33223 may have been one of the 56 Boston's acquired by the RAF in Abadan (Iran) during the period December 1942 to September 1943. With the agreement of the Soviet Commission, 56 Douglas Boston Mk.IIIA (A-20C) aircraft in the process of being delivered to the Soviet Air Force were exchanged for Spitfire aircraft.
    These 56 aircraft were allocated RAF Serials (and operated by 18 Sqn, 114 Sqn, 12 Sqn SAAF and 24 Sqn SAAF):
    HK869 - HK903 [35]
    HK912 [1]
    HK918 [1]
    HK921 - HK924 [4]
    HK934 - HK935 [2]
    HK960 - HK972 [13]
    The USAAF Serials and C/Ns of the above aircraft are unknown, as are the A-20C Block Numbers. Although RAF Serials were allocated; there is the possibility that they may not have been applied to some or all of the aircraft.

    The following 11 Douglas Boston Mk.IIIA (A-20C-10-DO) aircraft, were additionally transferred to the RAF from the USAAF in the Mediterranean, but did not receive RAF Serials:
    42-33208 (C/N 6670)
    42-33215 (C/N 6677)
    42-33216 (C/N 6678)
    42-33224 (C/N 6686)
    42-33232 (C/N 6694)
    42-33270 (C/N 6732)
    42-33280 (C/N 6742)
    42-33290 (C/N 6752)
    42-33293 (C/N 6755)
    42-33303 (C/N 6765)
    42-33313 (C/N 6775)

    Information Sources...
    Douglas Havoc and Boston (Crowood)
    Royal Air Force Aircraft AA100-AZ999 (Air Britain)
    Royal Air Force Aircraft HA100-HZ999 (Air Britain)
    The British Air Commission and Lend-Lease (Air Britain)
    Lend-Lease Aircraft in World War II (Airlife)

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    Hello

    Cpl Frederick G. BENNETT - 647434 - the National Probate Calendar records that he died at Joyce Green Hospital, Dartford.

    LAC Philip H. BLAMPIED - 929923 - The Rugby Advertiser of September 3rd 1943 reported the following:

    PINNED UNDER TRACTOR
    Accidental Death of Airman
    An inquiry into the death fo L.A.C. Philip Henry Blampied, aged 27 years of age, a native of Kent, was conducted by Mr. Tempest Bousekell, Coroner for South Leicestershire, at a Midlands aerodrome yesterday.
    L.A.C. Montague Irving Hook said that in the early hours of Friday morning he was in charge of a re-fuelling party. He told Blampied that as the work was nearly completed he could carry on with his ordinary duties. Blampied, however, said that he preferred to remain with witness until the re-fuelling was finished. Witness then preceeded to re-fuel the last plane, a mile distant, leaving Blampied at the spot the conversation took place. Witness, on completing the re-fuelling, was driving away when he noticed two 900 gallon bowsers stationary just off the approach to the "Standing." This appeared peculiar and he turned his foglight on to the bowsers. He then saw that the motor-tractor which was drawing the bowsers was overturned. On going to the spot he found Blampied pinned underneath the tractor. He felt his pulse and realised that the man was dead.
    ...
    Remarking that he had inspected the tractor and the scene of the accident, the Coroner returned a verdict of accidental death. and express his sympathy with Blampied's relatives.


    The National Probate Calendar records that he died at Bruntingthorpe.

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