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    Default Intruder operation over Norfolk June 1st 42?

    Gents,

    Squadron leader H Ashworth "B" flight commander, No.218 (Gold Coast) Squadron based at R.A.F Marham reported that he was attacked by a "single engined fighter" at 03.11hrs on June 1st 1942 while coming into land from operations. No damage was inflicted to his Stirling, however his gunners returned fire.

    Can anyone confirm if intruders were active and could a single engine fighter reach RAF Marham. ?

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    Hi Steve
    Not sure about the range of Bf109 or Fw190 but consider the possibility of a Friendly Fire incident,although if the "mistake" was realised by the fighter pilot he might have been too embarassed to tell anyone. If the mistake was made by the Stirling gunners it is liable to have been reported by an indignant fighter pilot on landing. Depending on circumstamces it might have been only the gunner(s) who actually saw the fighter but it may appear in the Station ORB if the gunfire was observed from the ground.
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    Hi Steve,

    I tried to find some information in Interception/Tactics Report No.95/42 - Night 31st May/ 1st June 1942 but it has no information about Stirling operations or German night fighters during this night. Is this the correct night?

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    Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by phasselgren View Post
    Hi Steve,

    I tried to find some information in Interception/Tactics Report No.95/42 - Night 31st May/ 1st June 1942 but it has no information about Stirling operations or German night fighters during this night. Is this the correct night?

    Regards,
    Peter
    Hi Peter,

    Thanks for looking, details confirm June 1st/2nd 1942. The second 1000 Bomber Raid, target Essen.

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    Hi Steve
    It might be wise to query the date. An incident at 0310 would have been the 2nd Jun if we are talking about the Essen "Thousand" raid which took off on the evening of 1st Jun.On 31May/1 Jun there were only 17 Bomber Command a/c involved in various sorties and none of them were Stirlings. The 1st "Thousand" raid to Cologne was 30/31 May. For both the Major raids the RAF carried out intruder operations against German used airfields but with ,mostly, Blenheims with some Havocs of Fighter Command. These details come from The Bomber Command War Diaries by Middlebrook and Everitt and no mention is made of German intrusion over the UK or the specific use of single engined a/c.
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    Dick,

    See below, June 1st / 2nd operation to Essen, so yes would have been June 2nd. I am not convinced that the Luftwaffe was carrying out single engine intruder op's this early. !

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    Hi Steve,

    I found nothing about an attack by a “single engine fighter” over Norfolk in “Interception/Tactics Report No.96/42 - Night 1st / 2nd June 1942”. Only one encounter over England is mentioned.

    “Encounters/other A/C seen”

    “Group 3.
    Orfordness 10 miles E. ME.110 going W. nearly collided with Stirling, 0310 hrs. 1000 ft.”

    According to Theo Boiten´s Nachjagd War Diaries no single-engined fighters are known to have been sent against the Essen raid. Another fact found in the same book is that intruder operations over UK had been stopped by Hitler in October 1941. Night operations by single-engined fighter bombers did not start until April 1943 (see Luftwaffe Hit and Run Raiders: Nocturnal Fighter-Bomber Operations Over the Western Front, 1943-1945 by Chris Goss).

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    Peter

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    Has anyone checked ...
    AIR22/125 'A.M.W.R. Air Staff Operational Summary and reports of enemy action against U.K. Nos. 408-426 Covering dates 1942 Apr.-June (1942)'
    ... ?

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