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    A point of interest, Anthony Pinhorn's family was notified on February 27, 1945, that their son had been posthumously awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, effective January 5, 1944, the day before he was indeed shot down while attacking U-270.
    I'm wondering if it was common practice to 'back-date' decorations prior to an airman's loss.
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    Hi Johnnie,
    The only George Kennedy I can find who received the DFM was 562564 Sgt George Kennedy, whose award was gazzetted on 6/5/38 for operations in Palestine.
    Regards,Mark.

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    Thanks for that. I was wondering if the photo had been taken early in the war due
    to the death of McFarland in May 1940 while still training. He is reported (in an earlier
    post) as having left New Zealand in May 1939 to join the RAF so I guess the photo must
    have been taken sometime between mid to late 1939 (when he would have started
    training) and May 1940 (when he was killed).

    All the photo mentions of G Kennedy is that he is instructing them, and he is a flight
    sgt with the DFM, so it sounds like it could be out man (the dates would certainly
    fit).

    I think a little more hunting through the London Gazette might be handy here to see
    what happened to Kennedy.

    Johnnie

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    Is this entry a little like a MID? It simply states his name has been brought to
    notice by the General Officer Commanding the British Forces in Palestine and
    Trans-Jordan in recognition of distinguished services rendered in connection with
    the operations in Palestine during the period 12th September 1937 to 31st March
    1938

    http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=34582&geotype=London&gpn=8177&typ e=ArchivedIssuePage&all=562564&exact=&atleast=&sim ilar=

    It is after he was awarded his DFM

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    Photo has been emailed to Droog so should be up soon.

    A note of interest. The Anson behind the crew seems to lack
    a prop so can't see it being used by the training aircrew shown
    (unless they plan to use it for ground training or fix the prop
    soon!)

    Johnnie

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    Johnnie,

    The common link with regard to Mason, McFarland and Spence is that all were at 6FTS/SFTS between 19 Aug 40 and 23 Mar 41. The photo appeared in the New Zealand publication 'The Weekly News' issue of 3 Jan 40.

    All three men (and Rowe) were New Zealanders in the RAF on short service commissions. You have correctly identified Spence as the man killed with 274 Sqn.

    42442 Alan Carthew ROWE was the sole survivor of the foursome, though it looks as though he almost joined them at one point as Bill Chorley records that he was seriously injured in a take off collision on 13 Jun 40 when flying 16 OTU Hampden L4138.

    Errol

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    Thanks for that Errol. So can we assume the photo was taken while at 6FTS/SFTS
    as they are all shown together?

    Do you have any further information on any of the New Zealanders?

    Johnnie

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    "So can we assume the photo was taken while at 6FTS/SFTS as they are all shown together?"

    Yes. All three were posted in on 19 Aug 40 and all were still there at year's end.

    MASON, Plt Off Miles Arthur George.
    42417;
    b Lower Hutt 17 Sep 16;
    Christ's Coll, Chch & Nelson Coll (1st XI);
    orchardist - with father at Richmond.
    RNZAF Civil Reserve Pilot/Marlborough Aero Club c.Jan 38,
    'A' Licence 23 Mar 38,
    selected for RAF SSComm 13 Mar 39,
    emb for UK 6 May 39,
    arr 8 Jun 39;
    RAF & to Ansty/9E&RFTS as Pilot u/t 12 Jun 39,
    SSComm [wef 12.6.39] & 1 Depôt 5 Aug 39,
    6FTS [redesignated 6SFTS 3.9.39] 19 Aug 39,
    Pilot Badge,
    1SGR 6 Apr 40,
    206 Sqn (Hudson) 6 Jul 40,
    kao 11 Feb 41.
    Runnymede Memorial - Panel 33.
    Son of Miles Clement Waller & Gwendolyn Mary Mason (née Flux), Seatoun, Wgtn; h of Charlotte Lucy Mason (née Stacey), La Cloture, L'Ancresse, Guernsey, Channel Islands
    [phot. TWN 3.1.40].

    McFARLAND, Plt Off Grenville James.
    42413;
    b Auckland 25 Dec 19;
    Nelson Coll (1st XI/XV);
    student.
    RNZAF Civil Reserve Pilot/Marlborough Aero Club c.Jan 38,
    'A' Licence 14 Mar 38,
    [flew 40 hrs prior RAF],
    selected for RAF SSComm,
    emb for UK 6 May 39,
    arr 8 Jun 39;
    RAF & to Ansty/9E&RFTS as Pilot u/t 12 Jun 39,
    SSComm [wef 12.6.39] & 1 Depôt 5 Aug 39,
    6FTS [redesignated 6SFTS 3.9.39] 19 Aug 39,
    Pilot Badge,
    Upwood (for Blenheim conv) 24 Mar 40,
    17OTU (Blenheim) 8 Apr 40,
    kaa 10 May 40.
    Bury Cemetery - A.21, Hunts., England.
    Son of James Andrew & Clarice Karina McFarland (née Clayton, later Gilbert), Harcourt, Stoke, Nelson.
    [phot. TWN 3.1.40 & 22.5.40].

    SPENCE, Fg Off Douglas James, (bbc).
    42445;
    b Chch 26 Aug 20;
    Chch BHS;
    ? - Australasian Temperance & General Mutual Life Assurance Society [at Chch?].
    Canty Aero Club,
    'A' Licence 9 Feb 39,
    selected for RAF SSComm by 24 Apr 39,
    emb for UK 6 May 39,
    arr 8 Jun 39;
    RAF & to Ansty/9E&RFTS as Pilot u/t 12 Jun 39,
    SSComm [wef 12.6.39] & 1 Depôt 5 Aug 39,
    6FTS [redesignated 6SFTS 3.9.39] c.19 Aug 39,
    Pilot Badge,
    10BGS (various a/c types) as staff pilot 6 Apr 40,
    245 Sqn (Hurricane) e.Jun 40,
    to Egypt e.Dec 40,
    70OTU (Hurricane) 19 Dec 40,
    274 Sqn (Hurricane) 6 Feb 41,
    f/ldg after coll with e/a (uninj) 21 Apr 41,
    kao 30 Apr 41.
    Tobruk War Cemetery - 3.P.2, Cyrenaica, Libya.
    Son of Alexander William & Mary Henrietta Spence (née Stewart), Chch.
    Note: credited with 3 e/a dest & 1 dam.
    [OHT1, OHT2 & phot. TWN 3.1.40 & 21.5.41].

    Note: TWN = The Weekly News
    OHT = Official History volumes by Thompson (3), available for viewing on line.

    ROWE, Flt Lt Alan Carthew
    NZ2507 (42442 in RAF).
    born (at?) 20 Feb 19.
    selected for RAF SSComm by 24 Apr 39,
    emb for UK 6 May 39,
    arr 8 Jun 39;
    RAF & to Ansty/9E&RFTS as Pilot u/t 12 Jun 39,
    SSComm [wef 12.6.39] & 1 Depôt 5 Aug 39,
    6FTS [redesignated 6SFTS 3.9.39] c.19 Aug 39,
    Pilot Badge,
    [posting wanting?],
    17OTU (Hampden),
    ser inj in coll after t/off acc 13 Jun 40,
    removed from ser ill list 1 Aug 40 [in hosp until c.Oct 41],
    [postings wanting],
    Finningley as staff pilot,
    58OTU (Spitfire),
    616 Sqn (Spitfire),
    flew Spitfire off HMS Eagle for Malta & 126 Sqn (c.30 ops) 9 Jun 42,
    to NZ on loan to RNZAF
    arrived 30 Sep 42,
    2OTU (P-40) 3 Nov 42,
    Central Gp 10 Dec 42,
    Southern Gp 9 Jan 43,
    Central Gp 26 May 43,
    AHQ 13 Oct 43,
    Rukuhia 20 Dec 43,
    New Plymouth 10 Jul 44,
    NEP Rongotai 30 Aug 44,
    1PD 10 Sep 44,
    to Pacific & 6 Sqn (Catalina) as Ops Officer 21 Sep 44,
    rtd to NZ 20 Sep 45,
    Ohakea 5 Nov 45,
    t/frd to RNZAF Comm 1 May 46,
    Wigram 15 May 46,
    Reserve 10 Oct 46

    Errol

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    Thanks for the bio on the airmen. Its fantastic.

    Just wanted to check, when you said they were there between 19 Aug 40 and 23 Mar 41
    did you mean 19 Aug 39 and 23 Mar 40?

    Johnnie

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnie214 View Post
    Thanks for the bio on the airmen. Its fantastic.

    Just wanted to check, when you said they were there between 19 Aug 40 and 23 Mar 41
    did you mean 19 Aug 39 and 23 Mar 40?

    Johnnie

    Johnnie,

    Ah yes, I see now, a senior moment there - 19 Aug 39 and 23 Mar 40 is indeed what I intended to say.

    Errol

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