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    Default Losses Coastal Command

    Hello,

    I am looking for two losses of Coastal Command.
    June 18 1944.Flying Officer (Pilot). STOUT, WILLIAM FRANK MCDOWELL. 547 Sqdn.
    Whitley or Liberator?.

    Loss the June 23, 1944. Flight Lieutenant (Pilot). ARMSTRONG, ELLIOTT ADAMS. 502 Sqdn.
    Aircraft, serial ?

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    Dan,
    With 16 threads I see that you are pretty new to this forum. Always mention the airman's servicenumber in your thread.

    F/O STOUT - NZ429376 was on Liberator EV897. Hit by ship's flak British Channel off Ile-de-Batz, N of Roscott/Finistère.

    F/Lt ELLIOT - RCAF J/12838 was on Halifax JP168 on anti-sub patrol and may have been lost over sea. SOS-message received 03.57h.

    Henk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henk Welting View Post
    Dan,
    With 16 threads I see that you are pretty new to this forum. Always mention the airman's servicenumber in your thread.

    F/O STOUT - NZ429376 was on Liberator EV897. Hit by ship's flak British Channel off Ile-de-Batz, N of Roscott/Finistère.

    F/Lt ELLIOT - RCAF J/12838 was on Halifax JP168 on anti-sub patrol and may have been lost over sea. SOS-message received 03.57h.

    Henk.
    Hi Henk ,

    Ok thanks for the comment service number.

    You know the composition of the crew of the Liberator EV897.
    Thank you

    Dan

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    F/O J.W. Hermiston - J/17585 - Pilot
    F/O F.W.McD. Stout - NZ429376 - 2nd Pilot
    Sgt A.A. Inglis - 1678502 - PoW - Flt Eng
    F/Lt B.E. Scott - 120135 - not known
    F/O H. Blenkinsop - 154190 - not known
    F/O D. Wilson - 54036 - not known
    Sgt R.S. Smart - R/170560 - not known
    W/O² A.C. Lornson - R/163639 - WOp/Ag
    F/Sgt D.T. Davidson - 1025522 - not known
    Sgt C.E. Judge - 1899263 - not known

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    Crew roles on board EV897 as described in No.1 MREU report dated 13 May 46:

    F/O J.W. Hermiston - J/17585 - Capt
    F/O F.W.McD. Stout - NZ429376 - 2nd Pilot
    Sgt A.A. Inglis - 1678502 - PoW - F.Eng
    F/Lt B.E. Scott - 120135 - Nav
    F/O H. Blenkinsop - 154190 - Nav
    F/O D. Wilson - 54036 - W.OM/AG [Wireless Operator Mechanic/Air Gunner]
    Sgt R.S. Smart - R/170560 - PoW - W/Air [Wireless Operator (Air)]
    W/O² A.C. Lornson - R/163639 - Wop/A [Wireless Operator (Air)?]
    F/Sgt D.T. Davidson - 1025522 - WOAG
    Sgt C.E. Judge - 1899263 - Air Gunner

    Note: that Smart was also PoW.

    From my 'For Your Tomorrow - a record of New Zealanders who had died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services since 1915 (Vol Two: Fates 1943-1998)':

    Sun 18 Jun 1944
    COASTAL COMMAND
    Anti-submarine patrol ‘I’, Channel area
    547 Squadron, RAF (St Eval, Cornwall - 19 Group)
    Liberator GR.VI EV897/E - took off at 1150 captained by Fg Off J W Hermiston, RCAF, and later seen circling over Brittany by the villagers of Roscoff, 3km north of St Pol, with one or more engines on fire. Moments later the Liberator crashed in the sea near the Ile de Batz, a few kilometres north of the village. Picked up from the water and taken prisoner, the RAF flight engineer and RCAF wireless operator were the only survivors of the 10 crew. Both were brought ashore at Roscoff, as was the body of the 2nd pilot, the only one of the dead to be recovered at the scene. The body of another crew member was later recovered some distance away and is buried at Bayeux, while the six others are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. The Germans sought to bury the New Zealander the following day, but panicked and cancelled the interment when the entire 2000 population of Roscoff, accompanied by a further 2000 from surrounding villages, with over 100 of the children carrying bouquets, joined the procession in defiance of the occupying power. The body was secretly buried later in the evening, an hour after the villagers were confined to curfew. Not to be denied the right to honour ‘their’ airman (the only combatant of the war to be buried in the village), Roscoff’s Catholic rector next day rang out the church bells. The procession reformed and he held a burial service of his own.
    2nd Pilot: NZ429376 Fg Off Frank William McDowell STOUT, RNZAF - Age 26. 311hrs. 2nd op.

    Errol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Errol Martyn View Post
    Crew roles on board EV897 as described in No.1 MREU report dated 13 May 46:

    F/O J.W. Hermiston - J/17585 - Capt
    F/O F.W.McD. Stout - NZ429376 - 2nd Pilot
    Sgt A.A. Inglis - 1678502 - PoW - F.Eng
    F/Lt B.E. Scott - 120135 - Nav
    F/O H. Blenkinsop - 154190 - Nav
    F/O D. Wilson - 54036 - W.OM/AG [Wireless Operator Mechanic/Air Gunner]
    Sgt R.S. Smart - R/170560 - PoW - W/Air [Wireless Operator (Air)]
    W/O² A.C. Lornson - R/163639 - Wop/A [Wireless Operator (Air)?]
    F/Sgt D.T. Davidson - 1025522 - WOAG
    Sgt C.E. Judge - 1899263 - Air Gunner

    Note: that Smart was also PoW.

    From my 'For Your Tomorrow - a record of New Zealanders who had died while serving with the RNZAF and Allied Air Services since 1915 (Vol Two: Fates 1943-1998)':

    Sun 18 Jun 1944
    COASTAL COMMAND
    Anti-submarine patrol ‘I’, Channel area
    547 Squadron, RAF (St Eval, Cornwall - 19 Group)
    Liberator GR.VI EV897/E - took off at 1150 captained by Fg Off J W Hermiston, RCAF, and later seen circling over Brittany by the villagers of Roscoff, 3km north of St Pol, with one or more engines on fire. Moments later the Liberator crashed in the sea near the Ile de Batz, a few kilometres north of the village. Picked up from the water and taken prisoner, the RAF flight engineer and RCAF wireless operator were the only survivors of the 10 crew. Both were brought ashore at Roscoff, as was the body of the 2nd pilot, the only one of the dead to be recovered at the scene. The body of another crew member was later recovered some distance away and is buried at Bayeux, while the six others are commemorated on the Runnymede Memorial. The Germans sought to bury the New Zealander the following day, but panicked and cancelled the interment when the entire 2000 population of Roscoff, accompanied by a further 2000 from surrounding villages, with over 100 of the children carrying bouquets, joined the procession in defiance of the occupying power. The body was secretly buried later in the evening, an hour after the villagers were confined to curfew. Not to be denied the right to honour ‘their’ airman (the only combatant of the war to be buried in the village), Roscoff’s Catholic rector next day rang out the church bells. The procession reformed and he held a burial service of his own.
    2nd Pilot: NZ429376 Fg Off Frank William McDowell STOUT, RNZAF - Age 26. 311hrs. 2nd op.

    Errol
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    Default Frank William McDowell Stout

    I have undertaken in-depth research on Frank Stout and have had a magazine article published about him. I hold much original material associated with Frank Stout and can give detailed information about him. Fell free to contact me via this site.

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